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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/07 15:17:33
Subject: 1750 KOS against big bugs. could use army list critique and tactics advice
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Gotta admit I haven't played much against the big bugs, I know he has a flyrant and 3-4 dakkafex plus some gaunts and some stealers.
here's what I'm planning on fielding
Warboss 150
slugga, powerklaw, stikkbombz, attack squig, cybork body
Mek with SAG 95
Lootas (15) 225
Nobz (8) 250
1 w/ slugga, klaw, cybork body
6 with slugga, choppa, cybork bodies
1 upgraded to painboy docs tools (FNP) and poison wpn wounds on 4+
Trukk 55
Rokkit launcher, red paintjob, ram, stikkbomb chucka
Slugga Boyz (12) 122
1 w/ rokkit
nob w/ slugga, klaw, bosspole
Trukk 55
Rokkit, red paintjob, ram, stikkbomb chucka
Slugga Boyz (12) 122
1 w/ rokkit
nob w/ slugga, klaw, bosspole
Trukk 55
Rokkit, red paintjob, ram, stikkbomb chucka
Shoota Boyz (12) 122
1 w/ rokkit
nob w/ slugga, klaw, bosspole
Trukk 55
Rokkit, red paintjob, ram, stikkbomb chucka
Stormboyz (20) 275
Nob w/ slugga, klaw
Battlewagon 170
Killcannon
4x big shoota
not ideal on the bwagon but its how it is modeled. making a new one already.
I don't know the specifics of his list, but I'd love feedback on what to tweak before saturday
I have a 15+ bikes, some kannons, I might be able to get a 5th squad of boyz together by saturday
Thoughts would be apprecaited!
NaZ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/07 19:13:57
Subject: Re:1750 KOS against big bugs. could use army list critique and tactics advice
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Stabbin' Skarboy
La Crosse, WI USA
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the only concern I have about the nobz and boyz is all the small units... with the truks you will get into combat fast, but it only takes a few kills before you are taking test after test
you have the stormboyz, nobz and warboss getting in fast...
what about 2 units of 30 boyz instead of the 3 units of 12? they will have to kill 21 per unit before you take any tests... you are less likely to get swarmed up and outnumbered badly, and you can still have 6 rokkits firing
not to mention it's 25 points less
in the future, you could use the points to replace the battlewagon with 30 shoota boys with 3 more rokkits (no nob)
the battle wagon should work well for your upcoming battle... gotta love pie plates for the swarms, but with 5th edition, it sounds like troops are your scoring units, so going with the boyz may be your best bet
good luck
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/09 02:38:30
Subject: 1750 KOS against big bugs. could use army list critique and tactics advice
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all those views and only 1 comment? I was expecting more from dakkadakka.
NaZ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/09 20:12:03
Subject: 1750 KOS against big bugs. could use army list critique and tactics advice
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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I'll be playing against Nidzilla with my KOS this weekend, I'll tell you how I got on. My list is a wee bit different to yours though- I have 6 trukk mobs and no stormboys, and only 10 lootas (I'd prefer 12 or so, but I don't have the models right now).
From playing against them with a footslogging horde, what kills the big nids is the power claws. Any army with abundant and mobile claws is going to be a headache for the nid player.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/10 00:25:15
Subject: 1750 KOS against big bugs. could use army list critique and tactics advice
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so here is a rough list of what he fielded
flyrant
another tyrant with ranged wpns
2 elite fex
2 heavy fex
1 zoanthrope
30 gaunts
2 squads of gene stealers
I ended up taking some bikes instead of the 8 man nob squad in trukk
he got the first turn, blasted my battlewagon and took out some lootas.
my 1st turn I layed waste to the gaunts who had fleeted forward using my bikes
my stormboyz engaged one group of stealers and took heavy casualties but eventually finished them off.
a squad of shoota boyz in trukk actually killed a fex with shooting but that left them in the open.
my warboss on bike ate a fex and swept into the shooting tyrant, but died on the next assault due to bad rolls.
the bikes and stormboyz took out his flyrant on the next turn.
lootas and big mek rolled poorly for # of shots and str of ordinance but still did ok throughout the game
at the very end he was down to just his zoanthrope at bottom of turn 6, I won by about 300 points not including table quarters control
NaZ
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/02/10 00:33:52
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/10 03:35:48
Subject: 1750 KOS against big bugs. could use army list critique and tactics advice
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Only 4 fexes? that might have actually made it harder for you, the counter assault is a bit scarier for the smaller ork mobs.
Did you find the bikes usefull?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/10 15:47:11
Subject: 1750 KOS against big bugs. could use army list critique and tactics advice
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Dakka Veteran
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the bikes did far better than I would normally give them credit for actually.
not only did their guns seriously shred up the gaunts, but since they have slugga+choppa now they attacked as hard as regular boyz would have.
they promptly chewed up those gaunts in assault on the same turn. so 11 bikes took out 30 gaunts in 1 round only losing 1 bike.
his flyrant jumped them immediately after, and the nob's klaw put 2 unsaved wounds on him but we lost 2 bikes.. drawn combat. that turn my stormboyz finished up the stealers right next to him and so they assaulted the flyrant on my turn.
the bike klaw and the stormboy klaw finished off the flyrant.
unfortunately, that damn large template pinned the bikes on the following turn, and a 2nd shot from the other fex mangled my stormboyz. his shooty tyrant assaulted the bikes and the bike nob killed him!! woot.
that 4+ cover save against everything is really good.. orks immune to ap fire is awesome.
yeah the counter assault was brutal. those damn genestealers took out 2 full trukk boyz squads, almost an entire 20 mob of stormboyz... not good at all.
one of the hardest games i've played lately.
NaZ
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