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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/11 04:57:14
Subject: Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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HQ
Warboss (Guznob da space boy smasha) - Bike, Power klaw, attack squig, cybork body-150
Elites
15 lootas-225
Troops
20 boyz- Sluggas&choppas, nob, powerklaw-155
20 boyz- Sluggas&choppas, nob, powerklaw-155
30 boyz- Shootas, nob, power klaw, 3 rokkit launchas- 245
30 boyz- Shootas, nob, power klaw, 3 rokkit launchas- 245
Fast Attack
20 stormboyz- nob, power klaw-275
20 stormboyz- nob, power klaw-275
3 warbuggies- Rokkit launchas, red paint job-120
TOTAL: 1845
156 boyz and 3 buggies
Suggestion/comments welcome
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If Rampage Jackson was in warhammer, he would be an ork. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/11 17:41:04
Subject: Re:Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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IMO, the buggies are a bad choice.
They're just SO fragile.
Also, you're lacking in Heavy firepower.
If it was up to me, I'd take out the buggies and replace it with the following unit x2:
(40) 2x kannon
(9) 3x Ammo Runts
(3) 1X Extra Krew
[or 2x Krew & 2x Ammo Runts]
(10) 1xRuntherd
Total 62 pts.
2 units = 124 points.
That'll put your list @ 1849.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/12 16:06:37
Subject: Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Cherry Hill, NJ
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Without a KFF in that list you army will not be marching that far up the table. I would also get a boss pole in most of those units with a Nob. I have seen them do wonders as most of the time if they fail a LD test they are done for the game. Its a nice safety net that I think all Ork players should take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/12 19:07:41
Subject: Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Fixture of Dakka
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For the cost, might as well upgrade to Wazzdakka.
I'd run 2 units of lootas.
I'd run 1 unit of 2 buggies. Red paint job isn't needed, if you can't hit them with 36" I don't think 37" is going to be a game winner.
Lots of Orks has it's own power. Problem is, mobility for the slow Ork boyz. Without a Warphead to help you move, you are relying alot on stormboyz (die fast) and your 1 Waagh! move (roll a 1, not so great).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/12 23:19:45
Subject: Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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you guys seem kinda hard on this list. It has beaten 3 different eldar players and 2 different tau players at my local GW. It has only tied once against a Nidzilla army. So il welcome your sgeestions, but even without the KFF and the bosspoles, its doing fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/13 00:11:03
Subject: Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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CanadianGreenskinofKhorne wrote:you guys seem kinda hard on this list. It has beaten 3 different eldar players and 2 different tau players at my local GW. It has only tied once against a Nidzilla army. So il welcome your sgeestions, but even without the KFF and the bosspoles, its doing fine.
Was this a "check out my cool list" post? Those posts are lame.
Was this a "what do you think i could do to make my list better?" post? You have total lascannon immunity with 150 boyz, then you put in buggies. The list is pretty hardcore, but the logic behind the addition of buggies doesn't really jive with me. You want to punish the one shot heavy weapon toters, so make sure you don't take vehicles. Your list would also benefit greatly from a KFF mek.
this is dakka, no one was being 'dakka' hard on your list. you'll know that when you see it.
Good job on the wins though, nice to see the success with only one loota unit, especially against eldar and tau...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/13 00:18:41
Subject: Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Yeah, if you want to stay away from the transports, go for it. But anything which gives a large proportion of your troops a better save is usually worth it. So the KFF is probably a good investment. Otherwise, it is pretty cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/14 05:11:41
Subject: Re:Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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so i tried the KFF big mek instead of the buggies. he worked pretty well. the buggies were originally for just some fast anti tank support. My original gola was to have so many different threats coming at you that you oculdnt have a chance to counter em all. Do you go for the storm boyz initial charge, or grit your teeth through it and try to work on the 100 boy Waaaagh that is inevitable. Do you want to focus precious turns of shooting on lootas or to try to take out the warboss. The KFF worked better on armies like marines. Tau i found didnt matter as much because multipule times ive had only 2 or 3 boyz (the lucky ones who didnt fail a moral check, damn leadership 7.....  ) take out whole units of fire warriors because the fire warriors are so terrible, and the power klawed nob makes mince meat of em. I took on a swarm tyranid army. That was somewhat of a challenge, found it harder then nidzilla because of a damn broodlord and his barly upgraded genestealers. little biggers took out a good number before my warbosss had to tear the steriod enhanced bug in half. srry about the anger in my last post. i was at gw earlier that day and some loser that considered himself a "pro" was bashing the list for lack of Flash gitz ( wtf, flash gitz in a army like mine?) more suggestions welcome.
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If Rampage Jackson was in warhammer, he would be an ork. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/14 19:05:20
Subject: Re:Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Stabbin' Skarboy
La Crosse, WI USA
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when you took out buggies and added mek/kff did you use the remaining points to add some rokkits to the sluggas?
I would recommend adding as many as possible to keep up the antitank
good to hear you're doing well with da boyz!
I fought to a draw with a space marine army with a termy HG, land raider, 4 dreads and a devastator squad with 4 missile launchers
(he took out my unit of 15 lootas in 1 turn - they failed ld and ran off board) watch out for template attacks while you're in cover!
I had a unit of 11 lootas also, and they took out 3 Dreads, a unit of marines and their rhino
I also had a unit of 11 tankbustas, and they wasted most of the game on the land raider right by them (they did destroy a land speeder, that was it)
I could have won a small victory, but in the last turn, I took a useless shot at a rhino (worth no points to me) with the SAG, rolled double 2s and he placed template on a unit of boyz, and broke them... he was able to take the loot counter that they were trying to take and he got full points for that unit
ok, therapy session over... good luck with the list!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/14 19:21:11
Subject: Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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how do you find the 20 strong mobs? I found that they were easy to drive off with concentrated fire. Does that happen a lot?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/14 20:11:39
Subject: Re:Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Drone without a Controller
Ottawa, Canada
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The list looks great to me, even though I know so little about Orks. It's very horde oriented but it still packs a huge punch. I'm curious as to how you plan to avoid having your Warboss picked off?
Anyways, I play Tau, go figure. I'm surprised you lost to 2 different Tau players, as background-wise Tau were famous for butchering Orks(Hey, he pummeled 2 whole Tau forces, am I not allowed to salvage a little pride?  ) and Tau usually have more than enough guns. The thing is when a confident Tau player gets his army up to a size like that he figures: "Oh, well I've got more than enough anti-infantry, what happens if I run into some stinkin' marines though?" And thus he starts forgetting entirely about the possibility of a mob that size. I know that I personally wouldn't be ready for a mob that size, and that's probably why you've been doing so well. I've got 2 Shas'Os at 132pts each and I'd end up throwing them into a mob just to attempt to slow them down. Thanks to your list though, I'm gonna start putting flamer suits in just in case.
Great list and congrats on the success of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/14 20:49:17
Subject: Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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[DCM]
Sentient OverBear
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CanadianGreenskinsofKhorne, could you please add in some capitalization and break up the big paragraphs a bit? Proper punctuation and spelling really help make your posts more readable.
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/14 23:03:35
Subject: Ork 1850 list. Final edit i think
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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Sorry Iorek. Im writing like i do when im on instant messanger. My bad. And now since Microsoft word corrects all capaitalization errors, i do it more. So ya, awnsering some questions I saw arrising.
To Moose: Do you mean how I beat two different Tau players? So basically, they did have a fair bit of anti-infantry. But really against Tau from what i learned, if you get one big unit stuck in, it can kill tons. Backed up with a Warboss it can kill more. I use the Warboss to take out hard stuff the would slow down a squad (wraithgaurd come to mind....) The reason i keep the warboss alone is because from what i have noticed, thats what draws the least fire to him. Hes got more then enough boyz to back him up in ocmbat. If you stick him in a unit of bikers, people see that and go "Crap, unit of biker with Warboss, gotta kill it fast." then you loose 300-500 points of guys before they do anyhting. I keep my warboss usually kinda sandwitched inbetween the boyz and the stormboyz. No one has really shot at him too much.....yet.
Da Boss: The 20 man squads of slugga boyz seem to work fine because you still need to kill 9 of them before they arnt fearless. And the perosn usually doesnt have time because he needs to worry about 40 storm boyz hitting him. In my list, the size works alright because i have pressure on my opponent right off the bat. In a slower list however. you would want 30 man squads. I would do thta if i had a spare 120 points, but i don't.
More suggestions welcome!
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If Rampage Jackson was in warhammer, he would be an ork. |
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