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My friend and I are getting interested in playing WFB again after a 7 year hiatus, but he is wondering if the Vermin lord and Doomwheel are "chapter approved" because we found some rules on the GW website from citadel journal.
   
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There are presently no official rules for either model, but if you and your friend both agree, you can do whatever you want in your games.

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Although I know its anathema to many gamers we're a pretty "cutthroat" type group and dont go for the whole "do whatever you agree on" rule sets, so to be clear this: http://uk.games-workshop.com/skaven/special-characters/assets/doomwheel-verminlord.pdf is NOT an official rules set for doomwheel and vermin lord? and a second question is whether the storms of chaos and lustria lists are official and whether or not they can only be used if playing under the jungle rules or whatnot?
   
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No, they're not "official" rules, as they were originally written in this form for a specific scenario and opponent's permission.

As for Storm of Chaos and Lustria, it depends on what you consider "official". Do you mean "official" as in books/rules written by GW that don't need permission(then yes, and ARE allowed outside of Lustria/Jungle Fights), or "official" as in what is allowed at Grand Tournaments(then no)? Note that several Storm of Chaos lists are older than the current books(Empire, O&G, and Dwarves) and have some crossover issues, such as Slayer Throng Slayers NOT having the updated Slayer Weapon rules and still having to choose weapon types in list selection.

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Exactly. The Lustria and Storm of Chaos sublists, and the units and magic items from the Dark Shadows (Albion) campaign WERE official, and have generally been accepted in most tournaments and groups. However, as those lists have aged and the books fallen out of print, GW has (to some extent) been phasing them out. GW's kind of been of (at least) two minds about it, however.

The extra magic items and special sublists, have generally been seen as being lost when the army in question has gotten a new book, unless said book had the list or item added to it. The major exceptions to this have been two of the new units (Goblin Hewer and Hellcannon), and the Dwarf Slayer Army, which actually got an update in the main official GW Dwarf FAQ actually the current Dwarf book came out:

http://us.games-workshop.com/errata/assets/dwarfs.pdf


The UK GTs started banning Storm of Chaos lists either last year or the year before. The US ones have allowed them up through last year, though this year the rules (just recently released) are much stricter. Even core armies which don't have books yet (like Dogs of War and Chaos Dwarfs) are not allowed.

http://gt.us.games-workshop.com/2008/gt_promo/rules_wh.htm

The Independent GTs in the US (and some of the ones in the UK, from what I understand), on the other hand, do usually allow Storm of Chaos lists, DoW, and Chaos Dwarfs. I'm less sure about Lustria. The Storm of Chaos lists are most commonly phased out/disallowed when the main army they're built from gets a new book, as the points values are often in conflict, and there may be other incompatibilities between the list and the new book. It's always best to check with the organizer, but I know that they usually prefer to let people use the expensive armies they built which haven't been superceded by updated army books, especially the ones from Storm of Chaos, which GW originally told us was fully official and appropriate for tournaments.

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