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1hadhq:

I'm sorry, were you disagreeing with me?

It seems like the pics you posted pretty much made my case.

1hadhq wrote:

So a GW expansion does not apply when its content ruins your argument.

It never applied...

1hadhq wrote:
Fine, shall we look for the Tau and Necrons = bestest friends/allies point youre trying to make?
-Tau and Necrons are separate armies and you can't play them at once.

You can't play IG and Spes mans at once, are you saying they aren't allies?

1hadhq wrote:
-The back of the case shows Necrons killing Tau. Somehow unlikely for allies?

Have you ever heard of the =I=

1hadhq wrote:
-Obviously human players are free to ally in multiplayer games, but this really should not count as proof.

Agreed, thus it isn't.

1hadhq wrote:
-The campaign is focused at one of seven armies to field, but you can't ally with necrons nor Tau there....
I am sadly still waiting for proof of your point.

You can't ally Spes mans and IG in campaign either. Again, are the IG and the Spes mans not friends?

Monster Rain wrote:1hadhq:

I'm sorry, were you disagreeing with me?

It seems like the pics you posted pretty much made my case.

Yes the pics closed the case, as they provided examples of Human skeletons as robots in space.
Humans aren't Tau. Different skeleton.

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

a)You can't play IG and Spes mans at once, are you saying they aren't allies?


b)Have you ever heard of the =I=


c)You can't ally Spes mans and IG in campaign either. Again, are the IG and the Spes mans not friends?

A) Spes mans are modified humans, Guardsmen are their little brethren....
Basically the ImperialGuard and the AdeptusAstartes are two parts of the same body: The Imperium.

Necrons are former Necrontyr and T'au are just T'au.
Since necrons aren't T'au ( and never were) and T'au aren't necrons ( and never will be ), it should go undisputed that an Empire of humans does not need to ally
to be friends and obviously the xenos scum won't ever have a friendship like that of the IG and the spase mens.

B) No?

C) I'll have to remind you that DoW does not care about friends or not.
My point still stands, there is NO example of a friendship between Necrons and Tau in dark crusade.

Hope I'm not derailing the thread to much from its current course but I thought I'd throw in my two cents.

Most likely allies IMO will always be the Eladar and the Imperium.

1. They both possess influential but pragmatic individuals with the power to make deals on the factions behalf, Inquisitors and Farseers.

2. Somewhat overlapping on the first point, they both have zealots and fanatics in their ranks, however these are, in most cases, not the decision makers. (unlike the Tau)

3. Theirs goal could possibly overlap, the Imperium wants hegemony while ultimately all the Eladar want, despite all their posturing, is survival.

An improbable but possible scenario IMO would be the Eldar out of desperation becoming a kind of protectorate of the Imperium. Craftworlds could travel through imperial space, exodite worlds and Craftworlds could call upon the imperial navy for assistance etc in exchange the Imperium gets access to the webway and other technological goodies.
of course the Imperium would probably have to call their new vassals something less humiliating to allow the sharp ears to save face.

DE and CSM. Both have worked together in fluff. They aim for similar objectives, and I see no reason why they wouldn't work together...As long as the CSM aren't slaaneshi... I think the CSM lost their morbid fear of xenos when they left the imperium..But I could wrong. I just haven't noticed any 'xenos-hating' in any CSM fluff I've read. Quite the opposite, actually. They seem to appreciate the DE and eldar for the numerous psychic relics they possess, and they seem to enjoy using the orks for their stuff.


Eldar and Tau does make sense...to an extent...I think everyone voted for them just because it was the first option

Samus_aran115 wrote:DE and CSM. Both have worked together in fluff. They aim for similar objectives, and I see no reason why they wouldn't work together...As long as the CSM aren't slaaneshi... I think the CSM lost their morbid fear of xenos when they left the imperium..But I could wrong. I just haven't noticed any 'xenos-hating' in any CSM fluff I've read. Quite the opposite, actually. They seem to appreciate the DE and eldar for the numerous psychic relics they possess, and they seem to enjoy using the orks for their stuff.


Eldar and Tau does make sense...to an extent...I think everyone voted for them just because it was the first option

To the contrary, most of the CSM are still rabidly xenophobic human supremacists, they just believe in a human run galaxy united under chaos rather than the emperor. For an example of the DE and CSM at each others throats read Dark Disciple by Anthony Reynolds.

1hadhq wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:1hadhq:

I'm sorry, were you disagreeing with me?

It seems like the pics you posted pretty much made my case.

Yes the pics closed the case, as they provided examples of Human skeletons as robots in space.
Humans aren't Tau. Different skeleton.

The cheekbones though...

Either I've been dosed with LSD or those pics show some distinct similarities between the two races.

I would say the Necron has the skull ( head ) to look like a human if you put some flesh on.
At the necron "head" ,There would be a nose ( Tau = reproductive facial slit ) and the eye sockets are closer. Plus necrons have a chin.

You could say a Tau head with some flesh on would look like a human too. Doesnt mean either concept is correct though.

A Necrons chin could be false. Maybe they're big fans of the famous chins we take for granted. Like Jimmy Hill for instance.

There's one defining similarity with the two races and that's the non warp aspect. Yes it's slightly different between the races but it's still common enough ground for an alliance against chaos itself.

Makng up xenobiology that hasn't been published in fluff is a but silly if you ask me. Let's stick to facts.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:
You could say a Tau head with some flesh on would look like a human too.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:
Let's stick to facts.

Stick to facts would prevent a Necron alliance, thus I welcome your return to a common ground : the published material of GW ( and maybe their sub-companies too ).

How do you know the Tau weren't the C'Tan response to Orks?

An entire multi-species empire of races in which ALL are "blanks"...

Coincidence? Or "Just as Planned" for the Taucrons?

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:How do you know the Tau weren't the C'Tan response to Orks?

An entire multi-species empire of races in which ALL are "blanks"...

Coincidence? Or "Just as Planned" for the Taucrons?

Because the old ones didn't create them, duh.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:How do you know the Tau weren't the C'Tan response to Orks?

An entire multi-species empire of races in which ALL are "blanks"...

Coincidence? Or "Just as Planned" for the Taucrons?

Because the old ones didn't create them, duh.

And how, exactly, do you know that?

In fact, since the Old Ones are most likely Void Whales, the fact that the Fish 'Eads might be their true offspring race isn't so far-fetched.

Dark Eldar and CSM pretty much seem to be in the same boat, I'm surprised they haven't joined already.

I vote that we lobby for the adding of the acronym "TC" to the Dakka Dictionary, as an abbreviation for that most perfect union of races- "Taucrons"

Why vote? Make it happen!

its got to be the feared amalgam of daemon and orks

DORKS!

Fluff wise Space Marines and Imperials have both became allies with Eldar as can be seen in DOW and Winter Assault. But i chose imperial and Eldar because Space Marines are less trusting and less tolerant of xenos then Imperials.

And P.S. who chose Marines and Chaos Marines? I mean really?

1hadhq wrote:T'au are just T'au.

Ah, but what about T'Pau?

Carol Decker had great cheekbones.

BloodQuest wrote:

1hadhq wrote:T'au are just T'au.

Ah, but what about T'Pau?

What about T Pain?

T'pol? a space elf?
T'Pain wears the RED flag so yes possible blue-grey in disguise....

For cheekbones:
A T'Kar


A G'Kar



Narn = Necrontyr.

Chaos Space marines rig shootas with bombs
Orks become mercenaries
Orks are seen to be Mukkin About
CSM proceeds to detonate, problem solved

Melissia wrote:Oh, no, Tau are also guano insane. If you think for an instant they're any less fanatic about "the greater good" than the Imperium is about the Imperial Creed, you don't know the faction very well

Also, why "Imperial Guard" and Eldar?

Why not just "Imperium" and Eldar? I mean Imperial Guard just do what they're told. It's the leaders of the Imperium that tell them what to do, and those are the governors, the heads of the Munitorum, the High Lords, and Inquisitors.

Space marines tend more to xenophobia I think. Ulthwe Eldar and the Tallarn have some history of cooperation together

Armies such as the imerium, eldar and tau have allied in the past but would probably never ally for a long time

Dark eldar and orks

I'm amazed the compelling evidence that supports the Tau and Necrons hasn't resulted in a landslide voting victory of said same chums.

Come on folks, you know it makes sense.

GKs, Sisters and Chaos. They're secretly all the bestest of friends ¬.¬

I'd probably say Tau/Eldar are the most likely the ally with someone. The Imperium will at some points, but unless it's with itself, they won't like it, and will probably turn on them the second they no longer need them.

Orks will ally for a fight, and when that fight is over, you want to be as far away from them as possible, because they'll turn on you.

Chaos will ally for their own means, and will backstab you afterwards.

Tyranids and Necrons will not ally with anyone. The Nids will throw bugs at you, and the Necrons will calculate the greatest threat, wipe it out, and then turn on the second greatest threat. They won't 'ally' with you per se, they'll just see you as a lesser threat, and it would be in their best interests not to have to fight on two front, but to focus on killing off the main threat first.

Dark Eldar may ally with pirate fleets or mercenaries, using them as distractions or cannon fodder. But that allegiance will not last.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:I'm amazed the compelling evidence that supports the Tau and Necrons hasn't resulted in a landslide voting victory of said same chums.

Come on folks, you know it makes sense.

I voted eldar and Tau as the eldar need an alliance and they have nothing against them and the Tau would welcome anybody with open arms (except orks, too many negotiators lost on them).

1hadhq wrote:

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:I'm amazed the compelling evidence that supports the Tau and Necrons hasn't resulted in a landslide voting victory of said same chums.

Come on folks, you know it makes sense.

They're in 2nd place on the poll Mr Facepalm.