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2011/03/22 12:37:59
Subject: Re:Wait so we're going to start bombing Libya now?
but seriously, its not like the USA starts things it cant realistically finish... is it?
I'm not american; but this kind of thing annoys me. America is one of the few countries with the balls to take care of anything; without tip-toeing about and debating for centuries before taking any action. I'm not a warmonger but sometimes things should be done.
No country has the right to blame America for anything; unless that country has also done something proper to contribute to world security (and that knocks off a bunch of countries; almost including the UK. Iraq changes that for us; we did our duty.)
You need to know what its like actually doing security; rather than playing politics.
Why does "America" need to do anything at all... Afterall, it is the USA that seems to be the initiator in all the worldwide shenanigans. Pciking its 'soft' targets in order to repair its poor economy. TBH, I believe they also need to justify their over-spending for decades on the Defence Force without action.
Also, 'world security': Seriously? This ties into my other thread, the UN has a 'Peace-keeping' force... why does the USA determine who is 'right' and 'wrong'? Most of these countries have been operating as they are for centuries without intervention... then suddenly, a country that that the USA decides gets invaded?
Another thing, have you ever wondered why 9-11 happened in the USA? It wasnt just because they had troops stationed in another country... there are many more reasons why somneone would strike back at them.
I wish America didn't have to. I wish the UN was an ACTUALLY USEFUL organisation. America shouldn't get involved in every conflict; but from what it seems to me; is because countries like the UK don't do quite near enough.
I also wish my fellow European countries weren't so lazy and useless that we have to rely on America to try and keep relative peace. France and Germany are especially useless places; but at least France has finally started to wake up and do something against the crapstorm in the middle east.
Otherwise everywhere will be like Libya before this conflict; a hellhole.
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2011/03/22 12:44:32
Subject: Re:Wait so we're going to start bombing Libya now?
I wish America didn't have to. I wish the UN was an ACTUALLY USEFUL organisation. America shouldn't get involved in every conflict; but from what it seems to me; is because countries like the UK don't do quite near enough.
No, you're wrong here. Completely wrong. Britain does more militarily on the global stage than almost all other countries - there are better targets for your ire, such as Germany, China, India, Brazil... all economically powerful nations, all failing in their duties to the global community.
It wasn't shot down, and both pilots have now been recovered.
I'm balling my eyes out here.
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Frazzled wrote:
You're talking like you're doing something. I don't see Australian jets flying over Libya, just your internet lips flapping.
Haven't you heard? All we backwards Aussies do is wrestle Crocs and eat Kangaroos. Sorry mate, out of our jurisdiction.
I didn't say it was shot down. But again you wouldn't know as Your guys aren't flying are they? So you're jabbing yet your country has no skin in the game. I proffer what that makes you but then I'd have to suspend myself.
I believe the point was already made, Frazzled. We dont need to be there... afterall, it is TEAM AMERICA, World Police... we just lend a hand when you realise (once again) that you have bitten off more than you can chew.
Well in Australia's defense, they are Freedom's last line of defense against evil commies/aliens/zombies with their strategic drop bear/crocodile reservoir. America yea! falls, the drop bears are released, and then the great WeinerHorn will sound the coming of Dachshundrskrieg.
So remember boys and girls, if you are walking along and hear "Die Valkyrie," and see on TV an ocean of weiner dogs forming up in parade ranks in the Great Plains, and your TV is suddenly taken over by an ancient weiner dog dressed like Patton barking orders, then you will know the Time of Man has ended, the time of Wiener Dogs has begun.
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Albatross wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:
I wish America didn't have to. I wish the UN was an ACTUALLY USEFUL organisation. America shouldn't get involved in every conflict; but from what it seems to me; is because countries like the UK don't do quite near enough.
No, you're wrong here. Completely wrong. Britain does more militarily on the global stage than almost all other countries - there are better targets for your ire, such as Germany, China, India, Brazil... all economically powerful nations, all failing in their duties to the global community.
Brazil is busy.
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-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2011/03/22 13:11:01
Subject: Wait so we're going to start bombing Libya now?
Owain wrote:I'm glad we're staying out of this one.
But we aren't.That's the problem. Really,no matter what, if this turns into a fiasco it will get blamed on the US.
You really do have a serious problem with this whole US v The World concept, don't you?
Its accurate. The Arab League is already backpedalled. Bush had twice as many allies as the NeoBams. No good will come from this.
Look, another one!
You're talking like you're doing something. I don't see Australian jets flying over Libya, just your internet lips flapping.
And what the feth are YOU doing!? Let's be real here, you are doing feth all - you just like to chest-beat on behalf of the USA, treating their military victories as your victories, and their efforts as your efforts. You are the worst kind of arm-chair warrior. You can claim no credit here whatsoever.
Also, I would like to add to the calls for less America-bashing, for the reasons already set out by other posters.
Why do you all continue to refer to the USA as "America"?
America = continent
USA = country
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/22 13:17:10
Subject: Wait so we're going to start bombing Libya now?
Why do you all continue to refer to the USA as "America"?
America = continent
USA = country
Because I want to, and you're not in a position to stop me. Sound good?
Also:
America = Colloquial name referring to the United States of America
North America = Continent
Excellent. In unity with your "don't let facts hold me back" stance I shall call England - Western France, unoccupied Scotland, or occasionally Haggisland.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2011/03/22 13:32:18
Subject: Wait so we're going to start bombing Libya now?
It wasn't shot down, and both pilots have now been recovered.
I'm balling my eyes out here.
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Frazzled wrote:
You're talking like you're doing something. I don't see Australian jets flying over Libya, just your internet lips flapping.
Haven't you heard? All we backwards Aussies do is wrestle Crocs and eat Kangaroos. Sorry mate, out of our jurisdiction.
I didn't say it was shot down. But again you wouldn't know as Your guys aren't flying are they? So you're jabbing yet your country has no skin in the game. I proffer what that makes you but then I'd have to suspend myself.
I believe the point was already made, Frazzled. We dont need to be there... afterall, it is TEAM AMERICA, World Police... we just lend a hand when you realise (once again) that you have bitten off more than you can chew.
Well in Australia's defense, they are Freedom's last line of defense against evil commies/aliens/zombies with their strategic drop bear/crocodile reservoir. America yea! falls, the drop bears are released, and then the great WeinerHorn will sound the coming of Dachshundrskrieg.
So remember boys and girls, if you are walking along and hear "Die Valkyrie," and see on TV an ocean of weiner dogs forming up in parade ranks in the Great Plains, and your TV is suddenly taken over by an ancient weiner dog dressed like Patton barking orders, then you will know the Time of Man has ended, the time of Wiener Dogs has begun.
Brazil is busy.
I always assumed this would be the way the Apocalypse went down... 2012 you say?
Frazzled wrote:
Albatross wrote:
AvatarForm wrote:
Why do you all continue to refer to the USA as "America"?
America = continent
USA = country
Because I want to, and you're not in a position to stop me. Sound good?
Also:
America = Colloquial name referring to the United States of America
North America = Continent
Excellent. In unity with your "don't let facts hold me back" stance I shall call England - Western France, unoccupied Scotland, or occasionally Haggisland.
I cannot find anything to disagree with here...
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/22 13:37:31
Subject: Wait so we're going to start bombing Libya now?
I wish America didn't have to. I wish the UN was an ACTUALLY USEFUL organisation. America shouldn't get involved in every conflict; but from what it seems to me; is because countries like the UK don't do quite near enough.
.
My dear boy, that's because we figured out a good fifty or so years ago that people don't like to be helped. Remember the Empire? Or the Romans?
We've already done the whole colonial thing that you American chaps are up to now, we've been there, done it, and finished with it.
We'd rather sit back and drink tea instead.
2011/03/22 13:42:01
Subject: Wait so we're going to start bombing Libya now?
Albatross wrote:Fair enough. Hey, how are you folks over in 'Britain's Beachfront Property' doing, anyway?
Oh, we manage to get by... strengthening our economy while largely ignoring the inbred northern relations.
We have Prince Willy visiting right now... though I must say, I met the young bloke in person on Saturday and all his "higher breeding" has not achieved as much as you would hope.
His pronunciation is atrocious... and you claim to have invented the language...
Im not even going to touch on his personal hygiene... I think Diana did much better when she had Harry to the non-Royal bloke... probably what's best for the gene-pool.
Await my letter via Royal Mail for further details.
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/22 14:00:24
Subject: Wait so we're going to start bombing Libya now?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
yea! falls, the drop bears are released, and then the great WeinerHorn will sound the coming of Dachshundrskrieg.
