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I think work humbles alot of students. When you do nothing but clean grease all day you tend to realise you are no better then anyone else.
The world would be a better place if everyone worked menial labor job that crushes your soul for even just a little while

hotsauceman1 wrote:I think work humbles alot of students. When you do nothing but clean grease all day you tend to realise you are no better then anyone else.
The world would be a better place if everyone worked menial labor job that crushes your soul for even just a little while

Agreed. It is the Wife and I's firm belief that everyone should first work in retail or food service.

Frazzled wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:I think work humbles alot of students. When you do nothing but clean grease all day you tend to realise you are no better then anyone else.
The world would be a better place if everyone worked menial labor job that crushes your soul for even just a little while

Agreed. It is the Wife and I's firm belief that everyone should first work in retail or food service.

The only thing that sucks more than food service are the idiots who whine if their order takes more than three minutes.

No, its those who complain about it having something they dont like. If you didnt want it on your food in the first place. Tell us. dont cry and get upset when we have t make your order again

You're both right. OK there are worse jobs than food service, but its right up there in crappy First World jobs.

My crappy first job was a horrific job operating rides at a small children's amusement park, basically just a wandering fair that wasn't wandering. My job after that was at a big box retailer as shelf monkey, and it was like paradise in comparison. The Wife's first job was in a high end Chicago steakhouse as a chef, and had other jobs as in the exciting field of pizza restaurant and department store candy shop (now that DOES sound fun) before her real gigs in such places as Head Start and the Austin PD.

hotsauceman1 wrote:I think work humbles alot of students. When you do nothing but clean grease all day you tend to realise you are no better then anyone else.
The world would be a better place if everyone worked menial labor job that crushes your soul for even just a little while

I agree too.

I had a lot more work ethic when I went to university in my 40s than when I was about 20. I was a lot more "sorted" generally, and I found it easy to complete the work on top of a full time+ job. In fact I couldn't understand how it takes people three years to complete an undergraduate degree as a full time student.

Kilkrazy wrote:

I agree too.

I had a lot more work ethic when I went to university in my 40s than when I was about 20. I was a lot more "sorted" generally, and I found it easy to complete the work on top of a full time+ job. In fact I couldn't understand how it takes people three years to complete an undergraduate degree as a full time student.

What did you go back to Uni to study?

Management.

Did medicine the first time around but did not graduate.

Since I ended up in management later on, I decided to get some formal education in the subject.

Lets be clear in the US college means university.
Public colleges in the US are some of the best schools in the world.

I'd put University of Texas, UC Berkeley and UCLA up against anyone. Plus Texas has its own nuke reactor. We'll nuke YOU!

Up in the French North we have things a bit different. Primary school 1-6 (7 through 12), then Secondary School 1-5 (12 through 17), then College, where one finally specialize, either as a Tech (3 years) or as pre-Uni (2 years). Then we have University. Techs can either work immediatly after, of continue specialization.

Colleges are often laughed at for being a straight 2 years of drinking and sexing, for the Pre-Uni part of it at least, but I think it's fine since it's likely everyone will go through a phase sorta like that during that age period.

But one thing that is clear, is that if there is little difference between Private and Public Primary and Secondary Schools, there are HUGE differences between Private and Public Colleges, Public being so much better at just about everything. People go to Private College because that particular College has a good reputation for a certain Tech program. I went 1 year to a Private College, in Humanities, and it was basically a regression in comparison to what I had learned in Sec 5. I switched for my last year to a public College.

We don't really have Private Universities here. I guess McGill would be the closest thing to one.


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Amaya wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:I think work humbles alot of students. When you do nothing but clean grease all day you tend to realise you are no better then anyone else.
The world would be a better place if everyone worked menial labor job that crushes your soul for even just a little while

Agreed. It is the Wife and I's firm belief that everyone should first work in retail or food service.

The only thing that sucks more than food service are the idiots who whine if their order takes more than three minutes.

Did three months in a pig butchering plant. On the casings line. The first few weeks, before going to sleep, when I closed my eyes, I saw only pig's viscera passing in front of me.

It was still better than my year as a bossboy in a 4 stars restaurant.

Kilkrazy wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:I think work humbles alot of students. When you do nothing but clean grease all day you tend to realise you are no better then anyone else.
The world would be a better place if everyone worked menial labor job that crushes your soul for even just a little while

I agree too.

I had a lot more work ethic when I went to university in my 40s than when I was about 20. I was a lot more "sorted" generally, and I found it easy to complete the work on top of a full time+ job. In fact I couldn't understand how it takes people three years to complete an undergraduate degree as a full time student.

Agreed. To be honest, university is piece of piss if you just put a bit of effort in. I just don't understand how people could drop out or fail - I managed to hold down a job and get all my work completed to a high standard in a timely fashion. I think it genuinely does come down to work ethic. All the people I've met who struggled or dropped out simply weren't putting the graft in, or hardly turned up to lectures.

Obviously, some people have special educational needs, but I found the assistance on offer ridiculously generous - even if I didn't actually avail myself of any of it.

Frazzled wrote:
Agreed. It is the Wife and I's firm belief that everyone should first work in retail or food service.

General labor isn't bad either, after that everything seems easy.

My first full time job was working in a text book warehouse as an "inventory manager" (read: I walked around and scanned individual books into the computer system.) it wouldn't have been so bad were it not for the absence of air conditioning, the paper dust, and the quota system.

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
Agreed. It is the Wife and I's firm belief that everyone should first work in retail or food service.

General labor isn't bad either, after that everything seems easy.

My first full time job was working in a text book warehouse as an "inventory manager" (read: I walked around and scanned individual books into the computer system.) it wouldn't have been so bad were it not for the absence of air conditioning, the paper dust, and the quota system.

Its the interaction with the excellent clientele while being efficiently and expertly managed that is the key factor*


*Sarcasm meter should be going off the charts...