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Melissia wrote:He has google.


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Well, unless he wants to claim that Obama took google away from him.

Obama took the Internet away from me.

Melissia wrote:It's a silly little tank, very, very french.

And six types of useless in WoT I suffered through it to the Lorriane.

Jihadin wrote:80K for three years of service. Yep I vote that sucker down myself.

80k in free education for someone who so wants to go to college that they'll spend at least 3 years in the military to get it. That's called putting money into your hardest working citizens... and that's what drives economic success.

Read a bit further Seb on my posts about the 80K

Phanatik wrote:My teacher in school that had us read the book did so as a warning of what could happen.

That your teacher thinks 1984 was about 'what could happen' is pretty stupid, and to be honest the fact that you haven't figured out in all the time since reading it that wasn't true probably isn't that far behind.

It's a book by a democratic socialist, intended as a direct attack on non-democratic socialism.

As much as I love the book, it needs to read for what it is.


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TheHammer wrote:I know! It's almost as if we acknowledge that there are economic classes that we may then have to do something about it!

As much as I recognise there are economic classes, I have to admit I get a little worried about anyone who thinks that automatically leads to a conclusion that we have to do something about it.


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youbedead wrote:Did the mods remove words from you vocabulary, or tell you how to think, if not then I'm really not sure how this relates.

Perhaps the mods have demanded he always have dakka on in his room, and that he have a little webcam on top of the computer that must never be obstructed.

Perhaps the mods are currently engaging in scrub war with Eurasia, entirely to draw political attention away from changing the name of his thread title?

Break out the victory cigarrettes and coffee. This looks like it's going to be a long war.

Jihadin wrote:Read a bit further Seb on my posts about the 80K

Yeah, I read it, and I still don't see how it doesn't show an extreme bias in the way Democrat and Republican policies towards servicemen are treated.

I mean, here we have a thread where Democrats are saying 'extend the ability to vote in absentia to all Americans overseas' and we people claim that its about Democrats trying to reduce the rights of veterans to vote in absentia. And yet McCain votes against the GI Bill, and people quickly explain the technicalities of it, and why McCain's stance was actually quite reasonable.

I mean, if US veterans just heard the worst about every story and concluded that all politicians were out to get them well then they'd be like soldiers everywhere else in the world. Actually then they'd be like people everywhere else in the world. But when they don't just hear the worst about one side, but actively look to invent entire fictions about that side, and at the same time ignore anything negative from the other side, well then that's something else entirely, and it's something I wouldn't be entirely comfortable having in my country.

The mods have increased the chocolate ration!

Keep 'em coming, boys.

No cookies? Why no cookies? I like my cookies. My macadamien cookies...

AustonT wrote:
And six types of useless in WoT I suffered through it to the Lorriane.

.... World of Tanks does not have the AMX 13/105. And World of Tanks is not exactly accurate. Even on the paper project tanks like the Skoda T-25, which was designed around an auto-loading 75mm.

Monster Rain wrote:I think this may be the first time I've heard the Post 9/11 GI referred to negatively.

Yeah. The military became even more Republican than it already was and largely the bill is why a lot of career military don't dislike Bush as much as other people.

So, people are bitter about educational benefits for veterans because it made the military "more republican"?

That's the most deliciously sad thing I've heard all day.

I wouldn't say that but honestly I can't see how anyone can hate the post 9/11 GI Bill. It fixed several problems with previous programs, added some new ones, and allowed VA benefits to be transferred to immediate family. The VA put me through college on my dad's benefits which meant I didn't need a loan and my parents didn't have to struggle to pay for it themselves.

Even Bush can get something right

Monster Rain wrote:So, people are bitter about educational benefits for veterans because it made the military "more republican"?

That's the most deliciously sad thing I've heard all day.

I'm confused, because I have no idea what set of facts in this thread made you think that was an opinion anyone here holds. As I understand it, Sebster pointed out that the military is a deeply republican faction in this country, and then further illustrated that by pointing out when John McCain, the Republican presidential candidate in 2008, actually refused to support the bill until they larded it up further despite his party supporting it, and that military remembers in general rationalized it as being OK. Is that pretty much how it went down? That's how I read it, anyway.

When it firs came out it was only aimed at the individuals just joining the army. Also the bill was loaded with all kinds of pet projects and "pork" programs that had nothing to do with the Post 9/11 bill. So the bill was redone which included everybody that was in the military and those that are joining which we all agreed with. So when the Post 9/11 bill was passed it was a pure bill dealing just with Post 9/11 bill. McCain railed against the added crap in the initial bill and the extra goodies for us vets. So (I can't remember who submitted the bill) the individual added more to it to our benefit which passed the senate. Something about backdooring Bush to if I remember right.

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Monster Rain wrote:So, people are bitter about educational benefits for veterans because it made the military "more republican"?

That's the most deliciously sad thing I've heard all day.

I'm confused, because I have no idea what set of facts in this thread made you think that was an opinion anyone here holds.

Surely lordofhats' response to my post would be a reasonable qualifier for the statement you quoted.

The word "rationalized" in your post tips your hand a bit, though.

Monster Rain wrote:The word "rationalized" in your post tips your hand a bit, though.

Only if "my hand" is "summarizing something someone else said"?

sebster wrote:I mean, here we have a thread where Democrats are saying 'extend the ability to vote in absentia to all Americans overseas' and we people claim that its about Democrats trying to reduce the rights of veterans to vote in absentia. And yet McCain votes against the GI Bill, and people quickly explain the technicalities of it, and why McCain's stance was actually quite reasonable.

Rationalize is a good word for this anyway.

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AustonT wrote:
And six types of useless in WoT I suffered through it to the Lorriane.

.... World of Tanks does not have the AMX 13/105. And World of Tanks is not exactly accurate. Even on the paper project tanks like the Skoda T-25, which was designed around an auto-loading 75mm.

Try again.

Quod erat demonstrandum I believe is the term.

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Monster Rain wrote:The word "rationalized" in your post tips your hand a bit, though.

Only if "my hand" is "summarizing something someone else said"?

John McCain ended up voting for the finalized bill, though.

AustonT wrote:
Try again.

Spoiler:

You know that is the pre-release tech tree for the French, not what actually made it into the game.