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Gundams are also 30ft tall. Tau suits are really more akin to the power suits the Mobile Infantry wear in Starship Troopers.

And before anyone throws a hissy fit, go read that book. The proper employment of Crisis suits is even identical to how the MI operates.

Truth!

The XV8s look clumpy.
I never thought they quite fit the Tau aesthetic of smooth curves and I'm happy to hear they're being redesigned.

If you look at the crisis suits done by forge world there is a trend there for the suits to be more shaped rather than "blocky", shame they can't be used for standard 40k rule cos they are unbelieveable

The XV-8 variants, XV-88-B type, and XV-9 suits are approved for use in Warhammer 40,000 games. Many tournaments don't allow Forgeworld, which is of course their choice, but if you don't play in tournaments and instead focus on having fun you won't have any problems there.

Do Forgeworld provide a set of rules for their stuff? I'm ordering some Tetras (since the general consensus is that they're awesome)

Rules for that stuff is in their books. I think volume 3 has alot about Tau.

stubacca wrote:Do Forgeworld provide a set of rules for their stuff? I'm ordering some Tetras (since the general consensus is that they're awesome)

Duncan_Idaho wrote:Rules for that stuff is in their books. I think volume 3 has alot about Tau.

Yes they do. Forgeworld made a PDF update for pretty much everything Tau from IA;3 which can be found here

If they fix the Crisis Suits aestheticsI might actually play Tau. As of now I cannot stand the XV8's blocky nature, it just looks very poor to me.

Wow, someone sent me the Forgeworld PDF (thank you! I can't think who, coz it's too much effort on my phone to check but thanks all the same! )

I'm amazed at how sucky some of the Tau stuff is BS2 for some things?! How did these guys manage to conquer anything, they're worse than Stormtroopers haha

 stubacca wrote:
Wow, someone sent me the Forgeworld PDF (thank you! I can't think who, coz it's too much effort on my phone to check but thanks all the same! )

I'm amazed at how sucky some of the Tau stuff is BS2 for some things?! How did these guys manage to conquer anything, they're worse than Stormtroopers haha

Those are all our drones lol. GW hasa strange affinity that automated drones are never smart and in no way could a Xenos race that always uses drones and advancing in technology on a constant basis can't make higer BS drones.

 Enigma Crisis wrote:

 stubacca wrote:
Wow, someone sent me the Forgeworld PDF (thank you! I can't think who, coz it's too much effort on my phone to check but thanks all the same! )

I'm amazed at how sucky some of the Tau stuff is BS2 for some things?! How did these guys manage to conquer anything, they're worse than Stormtroopers haha

Those are all our drones lol. GW hasa strange affinity that automated drones are never smart and in no way could a Xenos race that always uses drones and advancing in technology on a constant basis can't make higer BS drones.

Indeed. GW seems to believe that a computer is inferior to a man when it comes to calculating trajectories of projectiles in real time in order to hit a target.

On the other hand, all our BS2 drone stuff is twin-linked, which actually makes it more reliable than base BS3. And of course they benefit from markerlights.

Sentry Drone Turrets with Missile Pods are actually a tough, points-cheap, points-efficient way of get some additional anti-air into a list.

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
If they fix the Crisis Suits aestheticsI might actually play Tau. As of now I cannot stand the XV8's blocky nature, it just looks very poor to me.

Its funny, im kinda of opposite. The blocky reminds me more of transformers which is why I started playing them. I wouldn't mind a few more specialized units or unit leaders redesigned with a sleaker look thats for sure. i spent a lot of time customization poses and cutting them up. Im more interested in a more dynamically posable units.

 Riker210 wrote:
The blocky reminds me more of transformers

Funny you should say that, since i'm currently making a purple suit with a single eye a missing arm replaced with a plasma rifle and a custom even blockyer chest.

I must be alone in that I really like the XV-8s....
I just make their legs longer, repose the arms and they look great.

I chopped up all my XV-9s and gave them Xv-8s head to make them closer to the normal crisis suit asthetic

I rather like the XV-8s myself, but the legs/ankles/feet do bug me. I think they should be more chunky and articulated.

 Micky wrote:
I rather like the XV-8s myself, but the legs/ankles/feet do bug me. I think they should be more chunky and articulated.

They kind of work if you imagine the suit as flying/hovering all the time and the feet are just glorified landing gear.

But yes, bulking up the ankles is one of the more popular conversions.

 Roleplayer wrote:
I must be alone in that I really like the XV-8s....
I just make their legs longer, repose the arms and they look great.

Same here: I love the XV-8s, I just have to get rid of the head, the body, the arms, the legs and the weapons, and they look great

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Roleplayer wrote:
I must be alone in that I really like the XV-8s....
I just make their legs longer, repose the arms and they look great.

Same here: I love the XV-8s, I just have to get rid of the head, the body, the arms, the legs and the weapons, and they look great

I see what you did there.

Getting away from this nonsensical conversation about teenage fantasy anime, I think the cc suits might be a bit like warp spiders but with an empashis on danger close shooting. Would love to see a dedicated flamer/pulse cannon stealthsuit that retained stealth field rules.

The remora drones are way overpriced in FW rules, costing as much as a Vendetta, while only having minimal weapons in comparison. Not to mention their guns wouldn't be very effective in air-to-air. I suppose shrouded plus jink would be sexy for an air unit.

Any word on a dedicated AA unit... like the Sky-Ray getting a skyfire markerlight or something? Also, Tetras not going to be added? Sad face.

Xyrael wrote:
Getting away from this nonsensical conversation about teenage fantasy anime, I think the cc suits might be a bit like warp spiders but with an empashis on danger close shooting. Would love to see a dedicated flamer/pulse cannon stealthsuit that retained stealth field rules.

The remora drones are way overpriced in FW rules, costing as much as a Vendetta, while only having minimal weapons in comparison. Not to mention their guns wouldn't be very effective in air-to-air. I suppose shrouded plus jink would be sexy for an air unit.

Any word on a dedicated AA unit... like the Sky-Ray getting a skyfire markerlight or something? Also, Tetras not going to be added? Sad face.

A CQC suit might be a cool idea, but I'm unsure how wel it'll work out for them. WIth the new charge ranges, you'll end up hoping that you knock out the threat before they eat your squad.

I think the CQC Suit will probably be a Stealth Suit variant that trades in the stealth field generator for a shield generator or VRRT and will probably be used like the Hazard Suits are.

Jump in between soon to be charged unit and the enemy unit. Ravage it with fire and either counter-charge or draw off the enemy charge on themselves. Survive combat for a little bit then Hit and Run out of combat so everyone else can shoot the nasty unit.

Xyrael wrote:
Getting away from this nonsensical conversation about teenage fantasy anime, I think the cc suits might be a bit like warp spiders but with an empashis on danger close shooting. Would love to see a dedicated flamer/pulse cannon stealthsuit that retained stealth field rules.

The remora drones are way overpriced in FW rules, costing as much as a Vendetta, while only having minimal weapons in comparison. Not to mention their guns wouldn't be very effective in air-to-air. I suppose shrouded plus jink would be sexy for an air unit.

Any word on a dedicated AA unit... like the Sky-Ray getting a skyfire markerlight or something? Also, Tetras not going to be added? Sad face.

Nice try on getting this thread back on almost a rumor thread and away from "Discussion on tau suit aesthetics".
However, this is marginally only better than wishlisting....perhaps this should be locked until we get some actual rumors?

1 - In regards to a "danger close shooting" suit;
It would need to be deadly in overwatch, or some other mechanic, to be effective.
If it is no good in CC, it would need hit and run to get out of it (and the int to make it work).

I think a stealth suit with better weapons would be awesome. Plasma rifle ? Yes please.
Flamer? Yes please? Now give them hit and run, or something so they can stay out of assault...yes please.

2 - Remora
I love the models. Love the stats. these things would be great at about 45 points each, maybe even 50!
Honestly, if they were treated as "flying marker light drones, with a secondary weapon" for 50 points, then maybe I could see using them.
At their current point cost and weapons load out? They are laughably bad at best.
Oh, and lets not even get started on the barracuda. Lets just say mine will be a "counts as " storm talon for my allied marines.
Its that terrible.

3 - Skyray
This should be a no brainer. The markers have should skyfire. I mean, isn't that the point of the unit?
Of course, it should be a no brainer that if you somehow hit a flyer with a markerlight, then the seeker is BS5 to hit it.
(I cannot believe they somehow did not make this clear, either way, in the faq....).

4 - Tetras
Yes please. Really, love the model. Current FW stats are actually decent too!
(in fact its one of the non-imperial fw units that actually have good rules!!!).

I'm worried about having to buy everything new again :/

I wouldn't worry too much. Suits I think will be the only change along with vespid. Got all my tau tanks and troops ready for new book

I'm hoping the base stats will change, nothing major, but improve the vespids kinda thing. I want to like them but everything I've heard/read about them makes them sound worse than poop

I hope not only the suits gets changes, but also the Piranhas, they can bring so much more with so little changes such and underrated unit, hope they bring them up because i love the movel. I can still keep it up with the Tetras from FW, such an easy and simple conversion to do with simple Piranha. I cant make the cockpit as the FW one, but i can bring everything else with just a lil`thought and a Shield generator

Im kinda sad that the Demiurg wont be coming out for table top but thats ok ill make my own.
hope the cc suits are true. must defeat brothers all zerker army!

I hope the Crisis suits wont look like the Forgeworld suits. I actually prefer the current suits and think the heads on the Forgeworld models look weird.
Though, this is one of the only armies I won't mind using old models with new ones at all. It's just a showing of Tau progress, and it's not like they'd just phase out all the old battle suits.