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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
What sized brushes were you using? One of the best methods for speeding up your painting is to simply use appropriately large brushes. Even though I own an airbrush, my speed painted models I don't use it for anything but the base coat (or not at all if I can do the base coat with a spray can, which is even faster than the airbrush).

But 45 minutes. It's actually not THAT bad if it includes assembly. For me to do a Saurus Warrior takes around 10 minutes to assemble, a couple of minutes to base coat, a couple of minutes for first wash, a couple of minutes for 2nd wash only on the scales, a few minutes to paint the base and flock it, then another 10 or so minutes to pick out the details (even if I only do basic details). So you're looking at about 30 minutes.

There's not too many models I can do from sprue to finished model in under 30 minutes. My Cadians take me just under 30 minutes, largely because I use the snap fit ones which are faster to assemble, if using the multipart ones it's just over 30 minutes.

I used either a Large or Standard brush for painting the scales/skin, a Wash brush for the wash, and some sort of Drybrush for the drybrushing. I may also have used a Detail brush to do the eyes if I did them at all. Might've used a Detail brush for things as small as the metal tail cap, but I'm pretty sure I used a Standard brush for anything bigger than that.

They'd already been assembled and primed days before each 45 minute session started.

Oh, I forgot to mention that I painted, washed and drybrushed their shields a different color than their scales.

Also, I really have to learn to thin my paints...

Oh, and this kind of paintjob:

http://i.imgur.com/vz481VT.jpg

Took me at least 10 hours to do, just for the paint after the black primer coat. I spent that much time on it because it was a very special model for a birthday gift for a dear, dear friend. Assembly took another 4+ hours, including 2 hours of picking sprues out of my collection of spares that have parts I might want to use, then the rest of the time involved putting it together, realizing my first concept leaned WAY too far forward (the front tips of the first version's storm bolter probably could've reached to the model behind the model that is itself behind the model it was in base contact with, like, seriously, worse than Hormagaunts), taking it apart, having a think, then clearing my new idea with the recipient, then hacking things apart to make the thunder hammer and to make the device attaching the stormbolter to the backpack, then finally re-assembling it, but I enjoy building and converting models.

Nice looking model, but yeah, 10 hours is a long time to do it. I would have guessed 2 to 3 or maybe 4 hours for the paint job at most.

Some people just aren't as quick with their hands. I know I'm not tremendously fast because I've sat next to my sister packing envelopes for a charity thing and she could do them almost twice as fast as me. It wasn't the method or anything like that, she was just so much faster with her hands.

I don't think it's physically possible for me to paint a model in less than about 25 minutes (including assembly) unless I decide to ignore mould lines and just spray it and wash it ignoring all the details. Even then it probably only goes down to 15-20 minutes.

When people say they get a model table top ready in under 20 minutes I think they are either lying, haven't actually timed it to know, have *very* low standards or are freaks who are insanely fast with their hands.

Usually when I play with unpainted models it is to test them on the table top before devoting time to actually playing with them.

Also, Battlefront, Fallout 4, Halo just came out, I raid in WoW three nights a week, and work full time doing night security at an airport.

That, and every model, including scouts and other line troopers need to look good, so if my models are not painted, it is because they are being tested, in the queue, or are a drop pod.

Because feth drop pods, Amirite?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Nice looking model, but yeah, 10 hours is a long time to do it. I would have guessed 2 to 3 or maybe 4 hours for the paint job at most.

Some people just aren't as quick with their hands. I know I'm not tremendously fast because I've sat next to my sister packing envelopes for a charity thing and she could do them almost twice as fast as me. It wasn't the method or anything like that, she was just so much faster with her hands.

I don't think it's physically possible for me to paint a model in less than about 25 minutes (including assembly) unless I decide to ignore mould lines and just spray it and wash it ignoring all the details. Even then it probably only goes down to 15-20 minutes.

When people say they get a model table top ready in under 20 minutes I think they are either lying, haven't actually timed it to know, have *very* low standards or are freaks who are insanely fast with their hands.

That or they are only counting paint time, and not assembly time.

OP is clearly just trolling.

I paint all of my models, I like my army to have a colour theme throughout it to tie it together and I spend ages on the detailing to make it so.

However, I also possess common sense. Some people cannot paint, whether because of physiological reasons, or they don't want to ruin their models with their perceived lack of paintbrush skill. Or, they want to play the game and don't want to paint at all.

Just because I spend that time painting, does not mean I can force the same on someone else. Would I prefer two painted armies facing off to play into the narrative in my head? Yes.

But I also enjoy having a fun game and a good time. The only reason the concept of "3 colours and base" even exists is because GW need to upsell to shift more product (namely, their own paint range!).

How exactly, does the legion of Grey hurt you? Do you have a investment in citadel/vallejo/armypainter/Coat d'arms paints or something?

Izural wrote:
OP is clearly just trolling.

I paint all of my models, I like my army to have a colour theme throughout it to tie it together and I spend ages on the detailing to make it so.

However, I also possess common sense. Some people cannot paint, whether because of physiological reasons, or they don't want to ruin their models with their perceived lack of paintbrush skill. Or, they want to play the game and don't want to paint at all.

Just because I spend that time painting, does not mean I can force the same on someone else. Would I prefer two painted armies facing off to play into the narrative in my head? Yes.

But I also enjoy having a fun game and a good time. The only reason the concept of "3 colours and base" even exists is because GW need to upsell to shift more product (namely, their own paint range!).

How exactly, does the legion of Grey hurt you? Do you have a investment in citadel/vallejo/armypainter/Coat d'arms paints or something?

Exalted!

Izural wrote:
OP is clearly just trolling.

I paint all of my models, I like my army to have a colour theme throughout it to tie it together and I spend ages on the detailing to make it so.

However, I also possess common sense. Some people cannot paint, whether because of physiological reasons, or they don't want to ruin their models with their perceived lack of paintbrush skill. Or, they want to play the game and don't want to paint at all.

Just because I spend that time painting, does not mean I can force the same on someone else. Would I prefer two painted armies facing off to play into the narrative in my head? Yes.

But I also enjoy having a fun game and a good time. The only reason the concept of "3 colours and base" even exists is because GW need to upsell to shift more product (namely, their own paint range!).

How exactly, does the legion of Grey hurt you? Do you have a investment in citadel/vallejo/armypainter/Coat d'arms paints or something?

Exalted

I do admit I personally can say there is a stage worse than unpainted.
After assembly and basing comes the matt black prime.
NEVER leave it at that stage, neither you or your opponent can tell what weapons the little guys are using without impressive lighting.
Have some mercy and at least get a blob of color on the weapon.

I prefer fully painted for myself but stating anything more strongly does get "snobbery" thrown about.
I still have my first 40k painted models, yes they are a bit rough but keeping them around prevents that "snobbery" when I see where I was and where I am at.

I STRONGLY suggest just get painting, you would be missing an important element of the hobby that is rewarding for all involved.

Izural wrote:
How exactly, does the legion of Grey hurt you? Do you have a investment in citadel/vallejo/armypainter/Coat d'arms paints or something?

Because it ruins the aesthetic side of the game. And if we're not going to have nicely-painted models to appreciate then what's the point of playing such a terrible game?

Talizvar wrote:I STRONGLY suggest just get painting, you would be missing an important element of the hobby that is rewarding for all involved.

I've never found painting armies to be all that rewarding. I've always found painting individual models rewarding, armies are just a painful slog and by the time I get half way through I'm sick of the scheme I chose and my standard has improved to the point where I want to repaint everything.

Peregrine wrote:...then what's the point of playing such a terrible game?

Lots of reasons, don't be so narrow minded

Is this topic done now?

Untill the enxt time...