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Just saw the score to the Bears v Cowboys. Jesus the NFC East is a clusterfeth. Not a single winning record.

No way Jason Garret survives the season. Not all on him, but Jerry Jones sure as gak ain’t taking the blame.

Scuttlebutt is Dan Mullen, of the Uni of Florida, has had some feelers put out about going to Dallas. He was one of Dak Precots tutors at Mississippi, so maybe he can put Dak back on the winning track.

And yet...Dallas is still in first place!

And if (IF!!!) they can beat the Eagles in Philly in 2 weeks...they'll probably win the division!


But yes, this is probably The Clapper's last season in Dallas.

 helgrenze wrote:
Look out!
Eli's Coming!

After that WTF loss against the Dolphins, the Eagles might be a bit fired up......

HUGE Kaepernick news coming in hot!

U.S.—A gardener visible in several shots of Colin Kaepernick's workout video has been signed as a lineman by the Washington Redskins.

After noticing the man's speed, raw strength, and dedication, the Redskins signed the gardener as an offensive lineman.

The man received several calls from NFL teams but settled with the Redskins as he liked their shrubberies and they promised he'd still be allowed to mow the lawns.

"Well, I'm a simple man who likes mowin' lawns, trimmin' hedges, and a cold beer after work," the man, identified as 45-year-old Bud Stanley, told reporters. "I hope I'm an asset to the organization. They're bumping me up to a better mower model, too, one of them ride-on deals. Yeah, I'm lookin' forward to the games too, I suppose. I just pretend the other team's linemen are particularly tough tree roots and push right through."

Stanley's being called a prodigy.

There was also another man in the foreground of the workout video, but the Redskins had him digitally removed so they could get a better look at Stanley.

So, as the League heads into the final weeks, people are starting to whine and whinge about how a team with a "poor record (8-8 possibly)" is going to make the play-offs while better teams won't.

The NFL has a term that they bandy about concerning things like this:

Parity.

the quality or state of being equal or equivalent

If you look at the current standings you will see three divisions are closer to this concept than the rest: The AFC South, the AFC West, and the NFC East.
The AFC West, AFC South, and NFC East are almost exactly what the NFL wants the rest of the League to look like. They want there to be parity not only between the divisions, but the teams in those divisions.
AFC South - Jacksonville (4-8) is only 4 games behind Houston (8-5)
AFC West - Chargers (4-8) are only 4 games behind Kansas City (8-4)
NFC East - NYG (2-10) are only 4 games behind Dallas (6-7) (* Note: I am not saying this Division is good by any stretch, just they fall into the same category, statistically.)
With 4 games left in the season.
Yes, the worst team is the NFC is not Mathematically out of the playoffs yet.
Consider, IF things went tragically sideways for the top teams in theses divisions, and miraculously positive for the bottom teams, those standing would effectively flip.
Will it happen? Not likely.
CAN it? Technically, yes.

Its so weird watching Tom Brady struggle.

Though the refs were pretty spotty.

I heard the Chiefs had a bit of a equipment SNAFU yesterday.

Good win for the rams against the seahawks. If they can hold it together they could still make the playoffs

GAWDDAMMM Philly!
Don't do that!
I have enough blood pressure issues already.

And they made Eli end up with a losing record at the end of the day - way to kick a man when he's down!!!

 Alpharius wrote:
And they made Eli end up with a losing record at the end of the day - way to kick a man when he's down!!!

Which will make any HoF talks involving him very contentious.

 Alpharius wrote:
And they made Eli end up with a losing record at the end of the day - way to kick a man when he's down!!!

One more pic for the "Manning Face" files.
I wonder if his HoF bust will show that for all eternity? Assuming he makes it in, of course.

 helgrenze wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
And they made Eli end up with a losing record at the end of the day - way to kick a man when he's down!!!

One more pic for the "Manning Face" files.
I wonder if his HoF bust will show that for all eternity? Assuming he makes it in, of course.

It is a contentious discussion for me, because if he doesn't get in, wouldn't he be basically the first multiple superbowl winning QB AND SB MVP who didnt get in?

I know that the one superbowl, he was on the "statistically worst team to make it to the superbowl" when they knocked off the undefeated Pats, and his 2nd suberbowl was also knocking off TB and the pats. . . But beyond that, how much of the Giants' woes can be squared up to just bad play by their QB? those of us who've followed the game for a long time probably remember the disjointed and disfunctional front office moves of a few years back, and its very difficult to recover from an extremely poor front office.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 helgrenze wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
And they made Eli end up with a losing record at the end of the day - way to kick a man when he's down!!!

One more pic for the "Manning Face" files.
I wonder if his HoF bust will show that for all eternity? Assuming he makes it in, of course.

It is a contentious discussion for me, because if he doesn't get in, wouldn't he be basically the first multiple superbowl winning QB AND SB MVP who didnt get in?

I know that the one superbowl, he was on the "statistically worst team to make it to the superbowl" when they knocked off the undefeated Pats, and his 2nd suberbowl was also knocking off TB and the pats. . . But beyond that, how much of the Giants' woes can be squared up to just bad play by their QB? those of us who've followed the game for a long time probably remember the disjointed and disfunctional front office moves of a few years back, and its very difficult to recover from an extremely poor front office.

True enough. I think he makes it second try. They will have to consider something though. Outside those two years, he wasn't stellar. Post season six years, only two where he (the Giants) played more than one game. Sacked more times than his TD total. Seven winning seasons in 16 years. Led the League for INTs three years. That's enough negatives to keep him out first time.

This is what gets him in second ballot - Hold 6 NFL Records: Tied for Longest TD Pass (99 yds), Tied Most game Winning Drives (8 in 2011), Most 4th Qtr TD passes Single Season (15 in 2011), Most Road Wins Single Season including Post (10), Most YDS Passing Single Post Season (1219 in 2011), Only QB in NFL history without throwing an interception in multiple conference championship starts. 3rd all-time for most consecutive starts by a National Football League quarterback (210 - 222 including post season). Plus multiple Team Records.
The only QB that currently has a shot at the consecutive starts in R. Wilson and he is @100 games behind.

And yeah, the Front Office has been an issue in NYG. There are even jokes about how bad they have been.

Kind of like saying Dallas only needs a change at one position to improve... Owner.

Antonio Brown circus continues:

Antonio Brown has a reputation for posting some wild things on social media, and that theme continued when he claimed he was the victim of a crime that the police were ignoring on Monday.

Brown tweeted what appeared to be a screenshot of an app that allows him to see where his Bentley is located, and he claimed it had been stolen but police in Hollywood were not assisting him in getting it back. (Editor's Note: As always, venture gently into his Twitter feed.)

“Hollywood police will not even report my car stolen it’s shows at this address they letting (name redacted) ride around stolen cars with my kids with no money or home! Missed school today who we call,” Brown wrote.

He then sent a follow-up tweet encouraging any tow truck drivers or repo workers to help him get his car back since police were allegedly ignoring him.

This is not the first time Brown has claimed something very valuable has been stolen from him. The free agent wide receiver said last year that he came home from a trip to find that a large sum of cash and a firearm had been stolen from his apartment, which is apparently why he went into a fit of rage and began throwing furniture off a balcony.

The NFL is still investigating multiple sexual misconduct allegations against Brown, which is likely the main reason he has not been signed by a team. However, the social media drama certainly isn’t helping his cause.

I feel like dude is auditioning for a VH1 reality TV show.

Some People just don't learn.
Newest Josh Gordon suspension.

That's sad. Addiction is a horrible thing.

Did Pats know about this? Or did Seattle give him too much freedom?

I think the Pats had given him keeper and he may have slipped away from them a few times.
Seattle might have also given him too much leeway.
Either way he came up hot on a "random" drug test.

My man Drew. Knew he was gonna land 4 last night.

Keeps getting his MVP's stolen by someone on a hot streak, but he stays consistently better on average than all other QB's all time.

Too bad the NO owners/managers couldn't give him more help over his career.

 helgrenze wrote:
I think the Pats had given him keeper and he may have slipped away from them a few times.
Seattle might have also given him too much leeway.
Either way he came up hot on a "random" drug test.

It does seem more and more like the "random" anything the NFL does isn't random. . . I mean, don't get me wrong, once you DO test positive for a thing, or are found guilty of violating a rule, you're much more likely to be scrutinized further, but c'mon man.


I think we know that a player like Lawrence Taylor wouldn't last too long in today's NFL due to off-field stuff.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 helgrenze wrote:
I think the Pats had given him keeper and he may have slipped away from them a few times.
Seattle might have also given him too much leeway.
Either way he came up hot on a "random" drug test.

It does seem more and more like the "random" anything the NFL does isn't random. . . I mean, don't get me wrong, once you DO test positive for a thing, or are found guilty of violating a rule, you're much more likely to be scrutinized further, but c'mon man.

You don't even have to be caught to get onto the "not-random random" list. In his last season, James Harrison was getting tested monthly, undoubtedly because the league suspected him of using PEDs. He never failed one.

His post on Instagram about it:

“You can test me every day, I have no problem with that. But don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s rain. #random #insultingmyintelligence”

The NFLPA signed away everything in the last CBA. They allowed Goodell be jury, judge and executioner with this stuff. There are reasons why the Steelers were the only team to vote against ratifying it. They saw that train coming. I hope the players develop some backbone with the next agreement, but history shows that they'll strike for a few weeks, run out of cash, and then cave completely. MLB and NBA players would never stand for the gak NFL players have to deal with.

So, Who does Jerry replace Jason Garrett with?

 helgrenze wrote:
So, Who does Jerry replace Jason Garrett with?

Jerry Jones should just coach at this point.

And my Ravens not putting in any of their core starters(supposedly) for a game against their historic rival the Steelers next week. What a bizzaro world Lamar Jackson has created.

Oakland Raiders make the playoffs if all of this happens:
• Raiders beat Broncos
• Texans beat Titans
• Ravens beat Steelers
• Colts beat Jaguars
• Raiders clinch strength of victory tiebreaker over Steelers.

Philadelphia is in with a win over NY Giants.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Jason Garrett's average record in Dallas over his ten year tenure is 9-7, (including the partial first year).
Yes, Dallas has Culture Issue:
"Garrett wasn’t the only factor that caused Dallas to fold in such weird ways Sunday night on the road against an Eagles team that had the same motivations to win, but significantly less talent on the field. (…) Sunday’s embarrassing loss (yes, Jerry Jones, it was embarrassing) unfolded against a club that is running on fumes and held together with duct tape. And that was just entering the day, not even accounting for the multitude of injuries that occurred during the game itself, leaving Philadelphia floating into Monday morning with a character-defining victory."

"The Cowboys’ culture in 2019? It’s 7-8 and mediocre.
It’s 0-8 when trailing at halftime this season.
It’s three road wins against the three worst teams in the NFC — the New York Giants, Washington Redskins and Detroit Lions.
It’s losing to the Eagles with Ezekiel Elliott, Amari Cooper and Randall Cobb on the sideline in vital moments.
It’s punting on fourth-and-short when the Cowboys needed to go for it, kicking field goals when touchdowns make the difference, and reaching the end zone zero times."
Source

But Culture starts in the locker room. It starts with the Coach.

Miami with the upset over the Patriots! Rough road ahead for Brady and co.

RG3 led the Ravens over the Steelers(few minutes left as I type this, but its 28-10 with 4 minutes in the the 4th Quarter). Crazy that the Steelers were in playoff contention up until this week, with all their off/onfield issues.

And the Browns have jettisoned Freddie Kitchens already.

This hasn’t felt like the Pats’ year all year - and now it definitely isn’t!

And the 49ers Seahawks game?

Oh, that delay of game penalty? Ouch...

And it really is a game of inches in the end!

 Alpharius wrote:
And the 49ers Seahawks game?

Oh, that delay of game penalty? Ouch...

And it really is a game of inches in the end!

Yeah, that was a great game. Had dude just lunged backwards instead of trying to turn into and power through the defender, he probably would have made it.

Exactly!

You couldn't get any closer and NOT score the TD!

Amazing finish...

Tough finish for Seattle fans, but I have more faith in the Seahawks playing 2 tough road games to get the Super Bowl then the Pats this year.

Seeing reports that the entire coaching staff has been let go in Dallas, though that may be clickbait.

With the official end of the Regular Season, many teams will be looking for new coaches. So who gets the call?
This article should be considered when deciding where to get your new coach.

TL;DR: Andy Reid is better at training coaches than Bill Belichick.