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Well, I'm starting to recover from the AdeptiCon weekend. I'm going to try and document the weekend (took lots of pics, but catching up on RL may take a few days), but knowing Dakka, what people really want to know is what list I used to win the Gladiator tournament, so here it is:

HQ: Hive Tyrant /w acid maw, enhanced senses, implant attack, toxic miasma, toxin sacs, wings, dual twin-linked devourers, warp field
HQ: Hive Tyrant /w enhanced senses, toxin sacs, twin-linked devourer, venom cannon; 1 tyrant guard
E: Lictor
T: 6 Genestealers /w extended carapace, scuttlers
T: 6 Genestealers /w extended carapace, scuttlers
T: 6 Genestealers /w extended carapace, scuttlers
T: 6 Genestealers /w extended carapace, scuttlers
T: 6 Genestealers /w extended carapace, scuttlers
T: 8 Spinegaunts /w scuttlers
FA: 3 Raveners
HS: Carnifex /w enhanced senses, reinforced chitin, barbed strangler, venom cannon
HS: Carnifex /w enhanced senses, reinforced chitin, barbed strangler, venom cannon
HS: Trygon

Does a Trygon have mass points? And if so would that make him 2 heavy slots?

Congrats on your second Gladiator title. You rock!

Darrian
(Awed)

Darkness wrote:Does a Trygon have mass points? And if so would that make him 2 heavy slots?

The trygon doesn't have mass points (which don't exist any more), but the trygon is specifically listed as a heavy support choice in the IA: Apoc book. The "two HS" rule only applies to those super-heavies/gargantuans that are listed as "supporting war machine detachments".

How'd the Trygon go during the games? Worth the effort/cost?

BYE

Centurian99 wrote:

Darkness wrote:Does a Trygon have mass points? And if so would that make him 2 heavy slots?

The trygon doesn't have mass points (which don't exist any more), but the trygon is specifically listed as a heavy support choice in the IA: Apoc book. The "two HS" rule only applies to those super-heavies/gargantuans that are listed as "supporting war machine detachments".

OK. I was thinking of the old rules. Thanks for clearing that up.

H.B.M.C. wrote:How'd the Trygon go during the games? Worth the effort/cost?

BYE

In an odd reply (my last for the day - going to sleep soon) -

It did exactly what I thought it would do. It came in, killed a few models, then promptly died within two turns. (well, in 3 of 4 games, at least). It did yeoman's work, though...the gargantuan creature stomp attack (1 attack/model engaged) and the ability to DS into assault were invaluable, so he probably killed something like...100-150 points of models each game (Except in game 1, when he decided that it really wasn't all that important for him to actually wound anyone once he'd hit them - yes, I rolled 4 1's).

But taking him down was difficult for most of my opponents, and he attracted a lot of attention, which meant that my opponents generally focused fires on him instead of the genestealers dashing out of cover/concealment. (Admittedly, I may have helped this process by making sure that my opponents were provided with a copy of the gargantuan creature rules, which outlined things like the stomp attack and the fact it could tank shock).

Equally as valuable, though, was the way that the raveners followed the Trygon.

I'm surprised you didn't take more Raveners to capatalise on the Trygon's abilities.

BYE

Sent you a PM.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm surprised you didn't take more Raveners to capatalise on the Trygon's abilities.

BYE

I wanted to...but I couldn't squeeze the points. I considered dropping either the spinegaunts, tyrant guard, and/or lictor, but I figured I'd need each one.

Spinegaunts - cheap, throwaway scoring unit to force target priority tests and/or tie things up.
Tyrant Guard - need the extra wounds on a walking tyrant
Lictor - need the re-roll to bring in the Trygon as early as possible.

By the way my opponents for the day were:
#1 - Dual lash Chaos /w 9 oblits
#2 - Dual monolith Chaos
#3 - Shooty ork gunline
#4 - Shooty ork gunline

Dual Monolith Chaos?

So we can't mix the new Daemon Codex with the CSM Codex, but we can bring Monoliths in Chaos. That's just not fair.



Yes Cent, I know you're tired. Go to sleep and I'll stop making fun of you.

And by 'Shooty Ork Gunline' I assume you mean 'Loota Army w/Other Orks to make it legal'. All that S7 must've been fun for you.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:Dual Monolith Chaos?

So we can't mix the new Daemon Codex with the CSM Codex, but we can bring Monoliths in Chaos. That's just not fair.



Yes Cent, I know you're tired. Go to sleep and I'll stop making fun of you.

And by 'Shooty Ork Gunline' I assume you mean 'Loota Army w/Other Orks to make it legal'. All that S7 must've been fun for you.

BYE

zzzzz



Yep. 28 lootas, 90 boyz, 9 kannons, 2 meks, snikkrot

zzzz

Looking forward to the Battle Reports if you plan on any.

Capt K

Congrat's Bill. The first to get two - I'll see you there next year though.

I'm working on the Trifecta - Now I just have to find a way to show up and play on Sunday.

Hope to see you there next year...except I'll be running the Gladiator, not playing in it.

Bribes happily accepted. (They won't do you any good, but I'll take them).