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hi folks
heres the list im planning on developing for the terra painting tale of x gamers thread and ive plumbed for guard as its my bag baby.
ive gone for a pretty generic no frills list but i still arent sure on it, i also have 50pts or so left so could you guys have a look over it for me and make any suggestions you can.
heres the list:

1500 Pts - Imperial Guard Roster - Unnamed

HQ: Command Platoon (6#, 136 Pts)
Command Squad @ [81] Pts
1 Junior Officer - Iron Discipline; Honorifica Imperialis; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol; 1 Honorifica Imperialis
3 Guardsmen - Lasgun (x3)
1 Standard Bearer - Laspistol & CCW
Sentinel Squadron @ [55] Pts
1 Sentinel
Lascannon (x1)

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 341 Pts)
Infantry Platoon @ 341 Pts
Command Squad @ [86] Pts
1 Junior Officer - Iron Discipline; Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon
4 Guardsmen - Meltagun (x4)
9 Infantry Squad @ [85] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Autocannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [85] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Autocannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [85] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Autocannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 371 Pts)
Infantry Platoon @ 371 Pts
Command Squad @ [86] Pts
1 Junior Officer - Iron Discipline; Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon
4 Guardsmen - Meltagun (x4)
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW


Fast Attack: Sentinel Squadron (2#, 102 Pts)
Sentinel Squadron @ 102 Pts
2 Sentinel - Searchlight (x2); Autocannon (x2)

Fast Attack: Support Sentinel Squadron (2#, 55 Pts)
Support Sentinel Squadron @ 55 Pts
1 Support Sentinel - Multiple Rocket Pod (x1)

Heavy Support: Basilisk (1#, 125 Pts)
1 Basilisk - Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Battle Tank (1#, 170 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank - Rough Terrain Modification; Battle Cannon; Hull Mounted Lascannon; Sponson Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Exterminator (IA) (1#, 152 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Exterminator - Pintle Heavy Stubber; Rough Terrain Modification; Twin Linked Autocannon; Heavy Bolter; Heavy Bolter Sponsons (Pair)

Total Roster Cost: 1452


thanks in advance for your help and advice
millest

Well, firstly, split that squadron of two Sentinels into two squadrons of one.

Then make the Autocannons in the squads into Lascannons. 3 Lascannons + 1 Sentinel will not cut it at 1500. The Lascannon on the Russ doesn't count as it shouldn't even be there.

Then I'd actually downgrade the Lascannon Sentinel to an AC one (no sense in it standing out).

Now you've got 23 points. 33 if you ditch the Lascannon on the Russ. 35 if you lose both the Bolt Pistols.

Hmm... what can you do for 35 points. One thing you could do is drop all the Meltaguns in one of the Platoon HQ's, giving you 75 spare. That's exactly the cost of a H-Vet unit with 3 Meltaguns.

The net effect is the same (3 BS4 Meltaguns vs 4 BS3 Meltaguns), but the main benefit is you can use the Vets elsewhere, leaving a seocnd HQ bubble in your DZ rather than relying on just your CHQ.

Also means your army won't crumble if you lose your single solitary HQ bubble. You'll have backup.

BYE

well lascannons on russes are a good idea IMHO but for all the anti tank you got here buddy, i'm not concerned. HOWEVER!: i would get a techpreist with a chimera to help fix all the armor you got here just drop the missle pod sentinel ( are those even legal? ) missile launchers are very versitile but with the amount of weopons guard can have, they dont need to excel in two areas. ( I picked this tip up from H.B.M.C thanks )

Are the Sentinels worth it? Don't they just die?

I like the AC squads so I'd keep them. Maybe drop the Sentinels and put an Anti-tank squad in the HQ to get more lascannons?

Changes I'd make:
Drop all sentinels
Add lascannon anti-tank squad
Add Special weapon squad with flamers and demo charge
Add 2 vet squads with 3x meltas each
Drop meltas from 2nd Platoon HQ
Swap LR Hull LC for HB


HQ
JO with HI and ID, Standard Bearer (81pts)
Anti tank squad - lascannons (110pts)
Special Weapon Squad - 2x flamers, Demo charge (63pts)

ELITES
Vets - 3x Melta (75pts)
Vets - 3x Melta (75pts)

TROOPS
1st Platoon
PHQ - 4x melta (80pts)
1st Squad - Autocannon, Plasma (85pts)
2nd Squad - Autocannon, Plasma (85pts)
3rd Squad - Autocannon, Plasma (85pts)

2nd Platoon
PHQ (40pts)
1st Squad - Lascannon, Plasma (95pts)
2nd Squad - Lascannon, Plasma (95pts)
3rd Squad - Lascannon, Plasma (95pts)

HEAVY SUPPORT
Basilisk (125pts)
Leman Russ - Hull HB, HB Sponsons, RTM (160pts)
Exterminator (152pts)

TOTAL - 1501pts

That stupid Standard Bearer puts you one point over. If it's a problem then I'd consider replacing the Exterminator with a standard Russ and drop a melta from the PHQ to cover the difference. That would put you at 1499pts and you could put a bolt pistol on your CHQ for an even 1500 or just to make him look pretty.

A Tech-Priest is 45 points spent badly. Fixing a Russ, maybe, is not worth it.

The Support Sentinel is a little different. That's more of a special flavour item, and as I happen to like Sentinels I'm quite content to leave it alone. Multiple Rocket Pods are fun!

BYE

guys after reading all your inputs ive come up with this list, its 5 pts over and i cant figure where to drop them from:

HQ: Command Platoon (11#, 180 Pts)
0 Command Platoon @ 180 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [70] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [70] Pts
Iron Discipline; Honorifica Imperialis; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
1 Honorifica Imperialis @ [25] Pts
4 Guardsmen @ [0] Pts
Lasgun (x4)
6 Anti-Tank Squad @ [110] Pts
Lasgun (x3); Lascannon (x3)

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 340 Pts)
0 Infantry Platoon @ 340 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [85] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [45] Pts
Iron Discipline; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
4 Guardsmen @ [40] Pts
Meltagun (x4)
9 Infantry Squad @ [85] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Autocannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [85] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Autocannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [85] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Autocannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 330 Pts)
0 Infantry Platoon @ 330 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [45] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [45] Pts
Iron Discipline; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
4 Guardsmen @ [0] Pts
Lasgun (x4)
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW

Fast Attack: Sentinel Squadron (1#, 50 Pts)
0 Sentinel Squadron @ 50 Pts
1 Sentinel @ [50] Pts
Autocannon (x1)

Fast Attack: Sentinel Squadron (1#, 50 Pts)
0 Sentinel Squadron @ 50 Pts
1 Sentinel @ [50] Pts
Autocannon (x1)

Fast Attack: Support Sentinel Squadron (2#, 55 Pts)
1 Support Sentinel Squadron @ 55 Pts
1 Support Sentinel @ [55] Pts
Multiple Rocket Pod (x1)

Heavy Support: Basilisk (1#, 125 Pts)
1 Basilisk @ 125 Pts
Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Battle Tank (1#, 160 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank @ 160 Pts
Rough Terrain Modification; Battle Cannon; Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter; Sponson Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Exterminator (IA) (1#, 140 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Exterminator (IA) @ 140 Pts
Rough Terrain Modification; Twin Linked Autocannon; Heavy Bolter; Heavy Bolter Sponsons (Pair)

Elite: Hardened Veterans (5#, 75 Pts)
4 Hardened Veterans @ 75 Pts
Lasgun (x1); Meltagun (x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant @ [13] Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol

Total Roster Cost: 1505

just had a though if in the antitank sqaud i drop one lascannon to a missle launcher it hits the 1500 spot on

And you dilute their firepower. And they're target number 1 for any serious player.

Hide Lascannons in 10-wound bullet magnets, not 6-wound 'free VP's'.

BYE

the other option is i drop the anti tank squad get 2 lascannon sentinels with the command slot and use them, but im still 5 pts over.
or i get a second multiple rocket sentinel (i dont know if i can as i dont have my Ia with me at work) and stick the lascannon back on the russ.

the reason i like the autocannons in sqauds and why id like to keep them (apart from that i like them a lot) is that they are remarkably useful against tau and kroot, more so then the lascannons :S

mole - arent i right in thinking i can only have one hard vets squad?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Hide Lascannons in 10-wound bullet magnets, not 6-wound 'free VP's'.

I thought you might say that.


In that case Millest, put the lascannons in the line squads and make the anti-tank into fire support with heavy bolters. Also drop the ID from the melta PHQ as they don't need it. Should be exactly 1500.

And yeah, normally you can only have 1 vet squad unless you take the vet doctrine. I always forget that.

actually missy i think you might have hit a plan there. let me have a play and see do i need id in any of the HQs?
also any other doctrines worth taking?
millest

just a quick thought if i drop all command squad meltas i can get autocannons in the fire support and another lascannon in the second command sqaud! might modell up both options and sqitch between the too!

millest wrote:another lascannon in the second command sqaud!

Don't let H.B.M.C. hear you say that.

Just noticed you don't have a standard in your second list. If you're going to drop the meltas make sure you get the standard back before you start thinking about anything else.

if i want the standard back i think id have to drop the ID to get it back in any of the lists! and even then id be 6 pt over! lol and it would look like this with the ID and the standard:

1500 Pts - Imperial Guard Roster - Unnamed

HQ: Command Platoon (11#, 161 Pts)
0 Command Platoon @ 161 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [81] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [70] Pts
Iron Discipline; Honorifica Imperialis; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
1 Honorifica Imperialis @ [25] Pts
3 Guardsmen @ [11] Pts
Lasgun (x3)
1 Standard Bearer @ [11] Pts
6 Fire Support Squad @ [80] Pts
Lasgun (x3); Heavy Bolter (x3)

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 365 Pts)
0 Infantry Platoon @ 365 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [80] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [40] Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
4 Guardsmen @ [40] Pts
Meltagun (x4)
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 330 Pts)
0 Infantry Platoon @ 330 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [45] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [45] Pts
Iron Discipline; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
4 Guardsmen @ [0] Pts
Lasgun (x4)
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW

Fast Attack: Sentinel Squadron (1#, 50 Pts)
0 Sentinel Squadron @ 50 Pts
1 Sentinel @ [50] Pts
Autocannon (x1)

Fast Attack: Sentinel Squadron (1#, 50 Pts)
0 Sentinel Squadron @ 50 Pts
1 Sentinel @ [50] Pts
Autocannon (x1)

Fast Attack: Support Sentinel Squadron (2#, 55 Pts)
1 Support Sentinel Squadron @ 55 Pts
1 Support Sentinel @ [55] Pts
Multiple Rocket Pod (x1)

Heavy Support: Basilisk (1#, 125 Pts)
1 Basilisk @ 125 Pts
Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Battle Tank (1#, 160 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank @ 160 Pts
Rough Terrain Modification; Battle Cannon; Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter; Sponson Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Exterminator (IA) (1#, 140 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Exterminator (IA) @ 140 Pts
Rough Terrain Modification; Twin Linked Autocannon; Heavy Bolter; Heavy Bolter Sponsons (Pair)

Elite: Hardened Veterans (5#, 75 Pts)
4 Hardened Veterans @ 75 Pts
Lasgun (x1); Meltagun (x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant @ [13] Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol

Total Roster Cost: 1511

the only thing i can think is stick ID in both command squads and drop down to 2 meltas in one of the platoon hq squads (or even the army HQ) or leave as is and drop the standard bearer!

millest wrote:the other option is i drop the anti tank squad get 2 lascannon sentinels with the command slot and use them, but im still 5 pts over.
or i get a second multiple rocket sentinel (i dont know if i can as i dont have my Ia with me at work) and stick the lascannon back on the russ.

All sub-par ideas, especially the Lascannon on the Russ. You'll never use that.

millest wrote:the reason i like the autocannons in sqauds and why id like to keep them (apart from that i like them a lot) is that they are remarkably useful against tau and kroot, more so then the lascannons :S

Oh don't get me wrong - the Autocannon is the most perfect weapon for Guard squads, especially when teamed with Plasma Guns, and they do make mincemeat out of most things. But, the reality is that all armies need anti-AV14 and anti-Monstrous Creature weapons, and Gurad can get them in two places - 10-wound Bulletcatcher units or 6-wound Free VP's units.

Take a guess at which is the better option.

Fire-Support Squads with Heavy Bolters or Autocannons are a good alternative. Everyone tends to ignore them. AC FS squads are even better as you can stick them at 48" and hope that nothing scary ever comes within range to kill them all.

millest wrote:mole - arent i right in thinking i can only have one hard vets squad?

That's what Doctrines are for.

BYE

Mole wrote:In that case Millest, put the lascannons in the line squads and make the anti-tank into fire support with heavy bolters. Also drop the ID from the melta PHQ as they don't need it. Should be exactly 1500.

What's this? You tweaking list and making things more efficient? And here I was remembering back to a time when you said your main concern was painting, and how you only wanted a little 1000 point force to 'get you by'. Shame on you Mole. Shame.



BYE

millest wrote:... another lascannon in the second command sqaud!

Mole's right, don't let me ever catch you saying that.

If there's one thing worse than 3 Lascannons tied to 6 wounds, it's 1 Lascannon tied to 5 wounds, one of which is an important Ld8" Bubble Creator. Heavy Weapons do not go in Command Units as that tempts you to put them into LOS, which makes them easy pickings for your opponent.

the only thing i can think is stick ID in both command squads and drop down to 2 meltas in one of the platoon hq squads (or even the army HQ)

The alternative is to ditch the 4 Melta Platoon HQ and replace it with 4 Flamers. This leaves you with exactly 5 points, enough to buy the Iron Discipline back on that JO.

...or leave as is and drop the standard bearer!

Yeah, never let me hear you say that either.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:What's this? You tweaking list and making things more efficient? And here I was remembering back to a time when you said your main concern was painting, and how you only wanted a little 1000 point force to 'get you by'. Shame on you Mole. Shame.

Just because I don't play doesn't mean I don't understand what makes a good IG list. After all, I've learnt from the best.

ok now get 2 versions of the list to play with,

VERSION 1

1500 Pts - Imperial Guard Roster - Unnamed

HQ: Command Platoon (11#, 161 Pts)
0 Command Platoon @ 161 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [81] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [70] Pts
Iron Discipline; Honorifica Imperialis; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
1 Honorifica Imperialis @ [25] Pts
3 Guardsmen @ [11] Pts
Lasgun (x3)
1 Standard Bearer @ [11] Pts
6 Fire Support Squad @ [80] Pts
Lasgun (x3); Heavy Bolter (x3)

Elite: Hardened Veterans (5#, 75 Pts)
4 Hardened Veterans @ 75 Pts
Lasgun (x1); Meltagun (x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant @ [13] Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 342 Pts)
0 Infantry Platoon @ 342 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [57] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [45] Pts
Iron Discipline; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
4 Guardsmen @ [12] Pts
Lasgun (x2); Flamer (x2)
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 342 Pts)
0 Infantry Platoon @ 342 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [57] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [45] Pts
Iron Discipline; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
4 Guardsmen @ [12] Pts
Lasgun (x2); Flamer (x2)
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW

Fast Attack: Sentinel Squadron (1#, 50 Pts)
0 Sentinel Squadron @ 50 Pts
1 Sentinel @ [50] Pts
Autocannon (x1)

Fast Attack: Sentinel Squadron (1#, 50 Pts)
0 Sentinel Squadron @ 50 Pts
1 Sentinel @ [50] Pts
Autocannon (x1)

Fast Attack: Support Sentinel Squadron (2#, 55 Pts)
1 Support Sentinel Squadron @ 55 Pts
1 Support Sentinel @ [55] Pts
Multiple Rocket Pod (x1)

Heavy Support: Basilisk (1#, 125 Pts)
1 Basilisk @ 125 Pts
Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Battle Tank (1#, 160 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank @ 160 Pts
Rough Terrain Modification; Battle Cannon; Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter; Sponson Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Exterminator (IA) (1#, 140 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Exterminator (IA) @ 140 Pts
Rough Terrain Modification; Twin Linked Autocannon; Heavy Bolter; Heavy Bolter Sponsons (Pair)

Total Roster Cost: 1500


or here is the other with lots more melta loving

VERSION 2

1500 Pts - Imperial Guard Roster - Unnamed

HQ: Command Platoon (11#, 166 Pts)
0 Command Platoon @ 166 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [86] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [75] Pts
Iron Discipline; Honorifica Imperialis; Close Combat Weapon; Storm Bolter
1 Honorifica Imperialis @ [25] Pts
3 Guardsmen @ [11] Pts
Lasgun (x3)
1 Standard Bearer @ [11] Pts
6 Fire Support Squad @ [80] Pts
Lasgun (x3); Heavy Bolter (x3)

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 370 Pts)
0 Infantry Platoon @ 370 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [85] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [45] Pts
Iron Discipline; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
4 Guardsmen @ [40] Pts
Meltagun (x4)
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW

Troops: Infantry Platoon (35#, 370 Pts)
0 Infantry Platoon @ 370 Pts
0 Command Squad @ [85] Pts
1 Junior Officer @ [45] Pts
Iron Discipline; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
4 Guardsmen @ [40] Pts
Meltagun (x4)
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW
9 Infantry Squad @ [95] Pts
Lasgun (x7); Plasmagun; Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CCW

Fast Attack: Sentinel Squadron (1#, 50 Pts)
0 Sentinel Squadron @ 50 Pts
1 Sentinel @ [50] Pts
Autocannon (x1)

Fast Attack: Sentinel Squadron (1#, 50 Pts)
0 Sentinel Squadron @ 50 Pts
1 Sentinel @ [50] Pts
Autocannon (x1)

Fast Attack: Support Sentinel Squadron (2#, 55 Pts)
1 Support Sentinel Squadron @ 55 Pts
1 Support Sentinel @ [55] Pts
Multiple Rocket Pod (x1)

Heavy Support: Basilisk (1#, 125 Pts)
1 Basilisk @ 125 Pts
Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Battle Tank (1#, 160 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank @ 160 Pts
Rough Terrain Modification; Battle Cannon; Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter; Sponson Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Exterminator (IA) (1#, 152 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Exterminator (IA) @ 152 Pts
Pintle Heavy Stubber; Rough Terrain Modification; Twin Linked Autocannon; Heavy Bolter; Heavy Bolter Sponsons (Pair)

Total Roster Cost: 1498


so any suggestions? i like version 2 a lot more - mainly lots of melta loving any suggestions on a good way to add another 250 on to it or alter it for another 250 pts to make a larger force?
cheers
millest

Another 250? That's either easy or difficult depending on how much you want those Sentinels.

BYE

i quite like the sentinels but im happy to drop them for a larger list
decided for the 1500pts im gonna run with second version shown above

The second one works, just don't Deep Strike both Platoon HQ's, otherwise you'll be relying on your CHQ the whole time for Ld.

BYE

awesome, a HMBC approved list cool. now to organise and start painting!

Ah I noticed you had a Pintle-Stubber on the Exterminator. Ok, now I really approve the list. I was going to suggest downgrading the Melta squad to a Flamer squad and buying other things, starting with a Pintle-Stubber, but you've already got one. So that's good!

BYE

awesome! ill have to pop a blog up on here to compliment my terra one :d
cheers
millest