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I am not thinking of using GDs so I need a backup plan to deal with opponent's lords and other T6 creatures they throw at me (treemen, dragons etc.). I looked through the list and came up with couple of lists:

Khorne herald w/ Juggernaut, Obsidian armor w/ 16 bloodletters, full command, banner of unholy victory. With this set the herald of khorne will be almost impossible to kill in combat with 0+, 5+ and opponent's magical weapons will be useless thus negates those weapons that ignores armor saves. The static CR will be 5+ D3 to start out and with the herald and unit's attacks they can destroy many lord units (except stubborn, unbreakables...)

Nurgle herald w/palaquin, noxious vapous, slime trail w/plaguebearers full command, banner of unholy victory, seeping decay. The set it is more focus on endurance and win through CR. 4+ regen, 5+ ward and poison attacks can be deadly. Opp dont get bonus for flanking or rearing and the herald ASF will be great asset to reduce attack backs. Has less punch but more survivability...


which set you guys think will be good most of the time?

thanks!

Against large monsters tzench with the changling and a herald is the best. Hands down.

Other than that it depends on the monster.
Faster flying guys use nurgle cause the flank charge you will get wont matter much (they can easily avoid the khorne hearld then kill him in a challenge)

Against slower guys who rely on never breaking use the khorne guys to kill it out.

I'd go the khorne one for the strength to allow you to wound and get through the armour of opponents more easily.

If you're dead-set on not using a GD, Skulltaker is an amazing option for exactly this problem if characters are kosher.

Given your presented choices, I would lean towards the nurgle block for sheer durability.

the thing is GD are so expensive.... and the only ones who get go toe to toe are BT and Keeper but Keeper may die easier since it only has 5+ while BT could get 3+ then 5+ and obsidian armor makes whatever weapon ineffecttive thus BT can only be beat by other monsters and less likely by characters. I had a BT but my other units were so low so i used its points for 2 heralds and more core units....

id prefer the anvil. monster/lords rely on kills and with 3r standard outnumber bsb and unholy victory versus a low amount of kills and...er...umm (???). Then a fail leadership later and you can sit back relax grab a drink read the paper and when your comfortable watch it flee and get run down. be warned about catching the 'eggs in one basket' and 'good on paper not so good on table' diseases. Please the number of victims is high enough already