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So here we go! The only thing I question myself about is a Demolisher vs a Battle Tank..?

Mechanized
Grenadiers
Iron Disc
Die-Hards
Rough Riders

HQ

Junior Officer
Bolt Pistol
Power Weapon
x3 Flamers
Veteran
Standard Bearer
Commissar
Power Weapon

Chimera
Turret Autocannon
Hull Heavy Bolter

225 Pts

Troops

Junior Officer
x4 Plasma Guns

Chimera
Turret Autocannon
Hull Heavy Bolter

180 Pts

Infantry Squad
Lascannon
Plasma Gun

Chimera
Turret Autocannon
Hull Heavy Bolter

190 Pts

Infantry Squad
Lascannon
Plasma Gun

Chimera
Turret Autocannon
Hull Heavy Bolter

190 Pts

x7 Grenadier
x2 Melta Gun

Chimera
Turret Autocannon
Hull Heavy Bolter

185

Fast Attack

x8 Rough Riders
Hunting Lances
Veteran Sgt.
Hunting Lance

99 Points

Hellhound

115 Points

Sentinel
Autocannon

50 Points

Heavy Support

Demolisher
Hull Lascannon

165 Pts

Drop the sentinel. One sentinel with an autocannon is gonig to do anything special.

Put extra armor on all your tanks. ALWAYS WORTH THE POINTS.

Take either the Rough Riders or the Grenadiers down to 5 men, and buff the other one up. Odd squad sizes will screw. Keep it simple, min and max.

Also, I would change the autocannon turrets on your chimeras to either multilasers or heavy bolters, so that you can use the list in more than just friendly games.

My friend runs a similar list using the grenadiers docterine instead of mechanized (its a pure kasrkin list). He uses the hull mounted heavy flamer, and as far as Ive seen, they are amazing, especially since you are moving up to be in the enemies face.

I still do not see the appeal to mechanized guard. I think the chimera is too expensive with crappy weaponry. Especially with the way I heard that they are nerfing vehicles in 5th.

Drop Die Hards take COD it's Free.

Take a 1 or (2) Russ with 3 heavy bolter combo.

Drop Sent.

Dont really need comisser.

And maybe 6 rough riders.

smart_alex wrote:I still do not see the appeal to mechanized guard.

They're fun. You remember fun don't you?

smart_alex wrote:I think the chimera is too expensive

No arguments from me.

smart_alex wrote:with crappy weaponry.

People who underestimate the Multi-Laser are often quite surprised.

smart_alex wrote:Especially with the way I heard that they are nerfing vehicles in 5th.

Well if they stay at the current price they won't be worth a damn in 5th.

BYE

Well tanks are more surviable

But yea it's pts need to be fixed.

No, tanks are less survivable. In a mech guard army, you loose tanks two ways:

people out flanking you with guns (easier in 5th due to new infiltrate rules)
and big strong things punching you in the ass (easier in 5th due to rear armor hits all the time).

So, Chimeras=runny diahrrea in 5th.

Edit: But I still love 'em!

Vehicles are less survivable? In 5E?

That's funny.

Cover saves are cool, but not as effective as they sound. The melee rules are especially rough.

I play a mech IG army, with 7 tanks. I've played 4 5th edition test games with it, and with the exception of one, chimeras die MUCH faster than they used to. On the other hand, Lemans are MUCH harder to kill. I think it's a coefficient of the armor.

Armor 14 is ridiculous. But Armor 10 in CC is Vera Nice.

The biggest thing you should be worried about is those DS termies and those running powerfist wielders. Pop goes the tanky.

Did you see my buddies army, grey-death?

He's got 2 squads of 10 deep striking chaos terminators, 2 deamonprinces with lash, and 28 marines with Icons and meltas... it's stupid. My tanks just dropped trou and bent over...