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Im pretty much in doubt, should i give my warriors the leaping or winged biomorphs.

Leaping would mean walk 6", run d6, leap 12"
Wings mean jump 12", run d6, assault 6"

Major pro for wings is jumping over your gaunt.
And gaunts do block los to warriors. so you could screen your warriors and when in good charge range you can jump over em and make a charge.
Or jump from behind cover.

But

Leaping costs 6 points less.


So whats your opinions?

If you can *guarantee* cover saves for winged Warriors throughout the game, go for it. Otherwise, you'll be happy you have leaping Warriors with carapace anytime they get exposed to bolter fire. Also don't discount the value of a 4+ save over a 5+ in close combat.

Yep agree with gorgon, leaping better then flying cause you can take extended carapace.

Only warriors that can get away with not taking carapace are shooty ones (and even then a flamer or assault will ruin their day).

I don't think they can run and assault in the same turn.

So it is 12" + d6" + 12" + 6"
or 6" + d6" + 6" + 12"

Leaping is probably good enough, but wings are still better. Wings go great with Scuttlers, and then you get the 4+ cover. Win.

Where does it say in the codex that you cannot take extended carapace with winged warriors?

I'm guessing I'm missing something.

Under the rules for Winged in the Biomorph Enhancements.
"A winged model may not have the leaping or extended carapace biomorphs."

Tacobake wrote:I don't think they can run and assault in the same turn.

So it is 12" + d6" + 12" + 6"
or 6" + d6" + 6" + 12"

Leaping is probably good enough, but wings are still better. Wings go great with Scuttlers, and then you get the 4+ cover. Win.

What are those numbers representing here? Multiple turns? Otherwise I don't see how you're moving so much.

I'm assuming he's planning turn two charges.

yap.

Thanks for pointing out my obvious error

leaping is better for 3 reasons.

its cheaper

you can take extended carapace

you can screen your warrors behind your gaunts more effectively.


if you want to screen your warriors and they have wings then for thay first turn the wings are doing nothing. if you do use your wings then your warriors will be ahead of your gaunts. you can always move your gaunts out of the way before you charge, so there is no loss of the screening advantage.

Leaping it will be!
Thank you for your opinions!

I had a game today. 1000 points with a unit of winged 3 warriors and 4 leaping warriors.

Both units did extremely well, with the leaping warriors acounting for 2 wraithlords and a unit of dire avengers. The trick is keeping them hidden as well as choosing the right targets.

16 Rending attacks can take down most units. Granted I was using 4Ed rules and I massacred from 1 wraithlord into the other and got lucky.

The winged warriors went with my hormies and took down a unit of Dire Avengers. Just gotta have cover for them

Can't only infantry run?
So winged warriors would be unable to do so.

Correct me if I am wrong but is consolidation gone now? 4+ save keeps you safe from bolters. Safer from Lasguns too, for that matter.

Mekboy wrote:Can't only infantry run?
So winged warriors would be unable to do so.

Jump infantry can run too.

I like winged warriors. One of the major plusses is that you can extend or withdraw your synapse bubble quickly in any direction you need to. That has a value beyond mere points.

Also if your army lacks deepstrike or scouting reserves entering from your opponents end table sides you may be glad of some flying nasties. The 'may' depends on the terrain you use.

Consolidation into other units is gone, so carapace armour is that much more valuable when you get up close.

Then again, you shouldn't just be charging the enemy line with just one unit anyways.