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Hey all. I wanted to post a thread to get some truly awesome stories from you all, so here it is...

Have you ever made your opponent cry?

OK. Rule number one..doesn't count if your opponent wasn't considered a teenager yet.

Rule number two...Please give us the juicy details. Yes and no answers are no fun.

Rule number three...you don't HAVE to name names..unless you truly want to humiliate someone....your call.

Thats it, have fun...I'll show you mine, so you show me yours.

Alright, big apoc game...8 players a side with 2k each at least. Enemy Warhound giving my side hell....in comes my titan hammer squad...three inches behind the beheamoth. Direct hit...6 on the d3...no more Warhound. Grown man tears up...stammers how it wasn't worth the effort....THIS is what war is about!

Yeah, but we're playing a game with miniatures, not waging a war.

Your Schadenfreude is embarrassing. For shame.

Fine...just thought it would be an interesting topic.

Iorek wrote:Yeah, but we're playing a game with miniatures, not waging a war.

Your Schadenfreude is embarrassing. For shame.

How come? It's always fun to see someone take games as SERIOUS BUSINESS.

The best story would be if some guy was at a GT or Adepticon for *wonderful prizes*, is at the top table in the finals, then loses, ends up at 2nd place and breaks down. Afterwards he sells his army and whines about 40k forever. That would be the best story.

Iorek wrote:Yeah, but we're playing a game with miniatures, not waging a war.

Your Schadenfreude is embarrassing. For shame.

Uh oh!

I think you might have just made JediRaptor cry!

Just a case of the sniffles.

I played in an indy GT-like event in Sacramento called Capital Punishment. I was playing aginst one of the locals and I was a total noob. He was playing Tau and I caught him cheating, claiming his hammerheads had upgrades that he did not purchase. I called for a judge when he admits his mistake and he starts to tear up. I try to get the guy DQ'd but the judge has pity on him and lets him play on. It was a very sad affair.

I was running a vanilla Chaos army against some guy in his mid 20's who had a Khorne army on the table.
By games end his entire army was gone. He just stood there for a few seconds looking like someone had just poisoned his dog, then the tears started.
It took three people, including myself to help him regain his composure.
It was one of the games I've felt most bad about winning, because even though the guy seemed normal, I had to wonder what was going on in his life to make him break down like that over a game.

No, never made a grown man cry playing a GW game. However, I went to this historial con about 8 years ago. Got into this demo game with a guy who had written up his own ruleset for some variety of ancients. Accepted his offer of a game. I took about 10 minutes to go through the rules (I thought they were pretty good, IgoUgo), looked over my army (both sides were already deployed on the field, pretty big space between them. Well, I sent my entire army into a redeployment b/c he had about half a dozen elephants heading for my center. 2 turns later his elephants retreat in terror back into his own lines at an oblique angle, squishing a third of his army.

He blamed 40k for making me a great tactician (which I ain't), and then started getting redeye. I didn't feel too bad on this one. I mean, he wrote the damn rules.

GW: Played this guy in what turned out to be the first game of WHFB for both of us. Got my fanatics into his repeater crossbowmen, charged some other stuff into his ranks. He starts scooping up handfuls of dark elves and throwing them into his steel tool box he carried them in (mag bases). His army had been merc painted to a great standard for a small fortune. I mean, he had about 50 dollars worth of model and paint in each pitch! I was just blindsided.

I felt horrible after this one. I can't really pin down why.

It used to be a running joke with some friends that if you can make your opponent cry at a tournament you win $50.00.

No one ever collected.

When I worked for GW we had this kid that came into the store (15ish) who played bugs and when things started going wrong the tears would well up. We had to talk him down quite a few times.

Iorek wrote:Your Schadenfreude is embarrassing.

Did you say, "Schadenfreude?"
Ah. "Happiness at the misfortune of others!"
Loved that musical.

You're my new favorite Mod.

I played Chainmail locally when it first came out (the NEWER Chainmail, not the original). There was a fairly regular group of us, and I liked playing the faction with a lot of monster-types in it. Usually, I threw a Death Cleric in (cross faction) for a little "juice."

Quite often, I ended up with the same opponent and REGULARLY trashed him soundly.

This particular night, there were 4 of us in the same table. The idea was to trash the guy across from you, then trash the survivor of the other fight.
We were playing 250 point armies (kind of HIGH mid-range for that game).
I pulled out my army, which included the JUST RELEASED Ettin (BAD *ss unit in that game) and the rest of my Hard *ss "pipe-swinging M*F*ers," then went to take a pee.

I come back and he informs me they changed their mind. They're going to all gang up on me (he scared them with stories the Ettin's toughness).
I told them that was fine, but that they had to follow ALL the game rules, since they were 3 armies & we weren't TECHNICALLY playing sides.
LOL
Everytime one of their models came too close to another, they had to attack each other & stuff -I sprung that one on them when a valuable commander in one army got too close to another guy's Beating Stick model.

In the mean time, EVERYTHING I HAD made a bee-line for the guy across from me, TOTALLY IGNORING the other 2 players (who TFG had "allowed" to get closer to me during the charge).

He got p*ssed that I was ignoring the closer targets.
My Ettin was the last model left in my force. It died right after I took out his last model.

He got mad, eyes got all watery, picked up his model (the rest were loaded up as they died), left and we never saw him there again.

I think it was the fact that my 250 points and requirements for STRICT adherance to the rules took out about 500 points worth of models that did it. it also might have been the comment I made.
Something about how my mere 250 points kicked the hell out of them and, "imagine what I could have done if the sides had been even & you hadn't cheated by talking these two into ganging up on me because of your fear for a 2 headed pewter toy."

Eric

Well, I'm shocked on the one hand and confirmed on the other....I wonder if its a conincidence that all these guys with "social" issues are from the US

To be fair, if someone broke down crying in the UK from losing a table top war game, they'd get the biggest beating of their lives, no question of sympathy...

I'm not psychologist, but I'd have to imagine that pretty much anybody that breaks down emotionally after a wargame probably isn't that upset about the game, but about a bunch of other stuff going on in his life. He might be thinking, "so I didn't get the promotion and my wife left me and I don't have any friends, but at least I can still beat ass at 40k!", and then when that thing gets taken away, the realization of how little control he has over his life becomes complete.

Alternatively, these people could just be ridiculously highly invested.

Polonius wrote:I'm not psychologist, but I'd have to imagine that pretty much anybody that breaks down emotionally after a wargame probably isn't that upset about the game, but about a bunch of other stuff going on in his life. He might be thinking, "so I didn't get the promotion and my wife left me and I don't have any friends, but at least I can still beat ass at 40k!", and then when that thing gets taken away, the realization of how little control he has over his life becomes complete.

Alternatively, these people could just be ridiculously highly invested.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Once you start having a bad run at things, it starts to seem like anything not going your way reinforces your lack of power over your circumstances. I guess that for me though, win or lose, if I'm playing I'm not thinking about those sort of things. I can see, however, how the line of reasoning works, particularly for someone who is having a poor series of rolls, or something else beyond their control.

I made a grown woman cry, well she's 19 and this isn't going where you think it is. she essentially didn't call out what target she was firing at, made a whole lot of wounds, and i was like "oh, gay, you probably should declare what squad your firing at next time." she then started to bicker about it. eventually after me throwing out snide comments to counter her bickering she wept. I dont know about you guys but i felt awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttt!

lets_get_em_boyz wrote:I made a grown woman cry, well she's 19 and this isn't going where you think it is. she essentially didn't call out what target she was firing at, made a whole lot of wounds, and i was like "oh, gay, you probably should declare what squad your firing at next time." she then started to bicker about it. eventually after me throwing out snide comments to counter her bickering she wept. I dont know about you guys but i felt awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttt!

Why didn't you just ask her what unit she was firing at? No reason to be a dick about it.

So, was she cute? This decides if you made the right choice.

I don't recall seeing anyone cry. But when I was playing in a megabattle at the Chicago bunker, the guy in his 20's essentially had a bit of a tantrum after his forgeworld models kept getting destroyed.

He still had a bunch of stuff on the table but he packed up everything because he didn't like how things were going. It was ridiculous.

I thought it was funny, but dagnabbit, his earthshaker emplacements were still helping me out a lot.

lets_get_em_boyz wrote:I made a grown woman cry, well she's 19 and this isn't going where you think it is. she essentially didn't call out what target she was firing at, made a whole lot of wounds, and i was like "oh, gay, you probably should declare what squad your firing at next time." she then started to bicker about it. eventually after me throwing out snide comments to counter her bickering she wept. I dont know about you guys but i felt awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttt!

She may have not been crying over the game but possibly because of the way she was treated. Do you wonder why we don't have more women in to this hobby?

You don't make women cry.

It's a simple fact. Once the tears start, you lose.

More to the point, the psychology behind crying as a result of a 40k loss is precisely the same as the psychology behind attempting to create that response in your opponent. Something to consider if you're ever in such a situation.

Making women cry doesn't count. They can turn it on and off like a tap! Its psycological warfare by emotional blackmail.

Every GF I dated at some point would try it on - we'd have a minor disagreement but then at some point when the rational arguments wore out they'd resort to the water works. And win the argument.

It's no coincidence that the great woman I eventually married, I have NEVER ever made to cry. She argues back, and we hammer out a solution together. Sure she's cried about other stuff that was upsetting, and so have I, but not just stuff we were arguing over to win the point...

Not that we argue a lot really though...

Why am I telling you all this??

Beats me. I guess its Monday morning and I'm bored?

I agree.

Did have one girlfriend once who tried the emotional blackmail card on me with the tears and the emotional-ness and the "you don't love me anymore" speech.

It was met with steely resolve, and a determined "That isn't true."

"really?" actual sincere questioning.
"No. I never actually did."

We broke up shortly after. Emotional Blackmail, a game that 2 can play. Talk about scorched earth, though.

Happily married to my "one" now, though.

I've only seen two people actually shed tears at a gaming table, and strangely enough, both times were during a game of 40K, and involved the same figure, even.

The first time was when I painted my Eldar Avatar... I spent so many hours on that fig, I put so much care into that fig, I became quite attached to it. When I finally finished him and used him for the first time, it was against one of our Space Wolf players. We went through deployment, I had to set-up first. I got done setting up, then my opponent did, who then also won the first turn's activation. He didn't move any figures, he went immediately to his firing phase, and the first shot he made was a Las-Cannon shot (or maybe it was a Cyclone shot, I don't recall) that vaporized my Avatar. Obviously I had set him up in the worst place possible, where there was an avenue of fire that I hadn't seen.

My opponent and those gathered were laughing so hard, my opponent was indeed crying. I admit, I took it well, and had a good laugh, too.


The second time was many months later at a tournament in Denver, I faced mega-cheese for the first time and got whiped pretty hard in my first two games. In my 3rd game, as I was moving my figs, I accidentally knocked my Avatar onto the solid cement floor, where he obviously failed his invul save, and smashed into a billion pieces, which shot across the floor in every possible direction, under other tables, etc. After remembering how much time I put into that fig, I have to admit, I got a bit misty-eyed over it.

We had an area manager who make a kid pee his pants during a demo. Dude was a 6'+ tall marine who jumped up on the table, waaghin' and such. The kid's fear response just kicked in, and he piddled. The manager picked him up, arm's length, and got him the heck out of store.

Ok, First I don't recall including women as the source for the stories, but since I didn't specify, and due to the nature of the thread I guess it should have been expected.

Second, dropping a model that you have put your heart and soul into for hours and hours is an entirely different subject that does not qualify for this thread.
Creating mini pieces of art (yes, thats what they are) and then watching it go kablooey, in a literal sense, is enough to make anyone react emotionally. NOT the same as tearing up over a GAME....

Extreme examples.....

Death of Socrates catches fire.......allowed to cry.
You lose at uno.......NOT allowed to cry.

I had some forgeworld Broadsides that were completed...I had even entered them in a GD. Well I have a friend who stumbled, knocked them off my table....and then proceed to step on them...

No tears, however, the other people we were playing with that day did remove him expeditiously from my presence as I think my eyes started glowing a strange warp induced purple.

I really think this thread runs counter to the expectations of sportsman-ship I expect in a game of 40k.

I quote one of the members of the d6 generation "It's play like you've got a pair, not play like you are a pair." Play to win, play hard, but don't be TFG (not Temple Flame Guard).

Valhallan42nd wrote:I really think this thread runs counter to the expectations of sportsman-ship I expect in a game of 40k.

I quote one of the members of the d6 generation "It's play like you've got a pair, not play like you are a pair." Play to win, play hard, but don't be TFG (not Temple Flame Guard).

Most of the stories didn't involve crying as a result of bullying or malice, but rather just an emotional breakdown more or less unrealted to the personality of the opponent. The purpose of the thread isn't to exult in being big scary men, but rather to simply marvel at the lamentations of the defeated. I suppose it's a minor aspect of the "gamers are socialy damaged" school of discussion, but most of the stories seem to feature the thin skinned, not TFG.