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Guy at GW store said no, if they move 12 inches using packs they cannot run in the shooting phase. I don't actually find the rule in the book. Some comments on Blood Angels armies have assumed that they can run in the shooting phase like other infantry.

Thanks!

I know of no restriction on jump packs. The 5th ed rules do not state that.

I've seen nothing that says they can't run. Redshirts were the same people that told me my warlocks counted as IC in assaults.

Smply put, the guy at the GW store was wrong.

Yes they can run. Jump Infantry are still infantry and not vehicles.

On page 16 under the run section it says units may choose to run instead of firing, it doesnt say anything about infantry only.

It also says in their description on page 52 that jump infantry count as infantry in the shooting phase.

Also, the most convincing part is that under bikes and vehicles it states on pages 53 and 58 that they cant run.

/case closed

... they must be able to run or why do eldar swooping hawks get fleet?

Because they're Eldar.

But I'm pretty sure, as everyone else has said, that they CAN run. What's stopping them? They count as infantry, and infantry can run.

They count as jump infantry, but also follow the rules for infantry too. And they can run.

double post

Grignard wrote:I've seen nothing that says they can't run. Redshirts were the same people that told me my warlocks counted as IC in assaults.

he did say "guy at GW store" he didn't specify whether it was a redshirt or not..

See Dante Run. Run, Dante, Run.

Woo... Ork stormboys. 12" normal. D6 additional, D6 fleet/run, 6" assault (if waagh is called) 20"-30" in one turn.

Too bad they still strike last against anything worth assaulting.

except stormboyz lost the Waaagh rule... for some strange reason (check the FAQ)

They lost it because they were beyond the pale with it.

12+12+D6+12+6 is actually enough, ya know.

Well that sucks. So I guess we are stuck with 19-24" Still usable I guess.

lol you should see 60 storm boyz in action.

It's...frightening.

I killed 48 and made the rest run, but man I was peeing my pants. lol

Stelek, where do you get "12+12+D6+12+6"I can only figure out a single 12(normal movement) the D6(run) and the final 6(assault), where's the extra 24" coming from?

Well the first 12" is from Deploying 12 inches from the board edge, I know that much.

Deploy 12, Jump pack 12, Fleet d6, something, charge 6.

Red_Lives wrote:except stormboyz lost the Waaagh rule... for some strange reason (check the FAQ)

They 'lost' it because it didn't actually do anything for them, since they're not Infantry... and Waaagh! only actually affects Infantry.

I thought waaagh just gave the fleet rule? which is charge after running. and during the shooting phase jump infantry are infantry P. 52? And for purposes of waaagh they function the same regardless. I just figured that the reason they didn't give it back was to keep their power level down.

Red_Lives wrote:I thought waaagh just gave the fleet rule?

To Infantry.

Jump Infantry and Infantry are two separate categories. The fact that JI use some of the same rules as Infantry does not make them Infantry.

I just figured that the reason they didn't give it back was to keep their power level down.

The fact that it was listed as one of their special rules was a misprint, just like the other units that had 'Waagh!' removed by the FAQ.

If a dreadnaught can run cause it is a walker then a guy with a jump pack would be able to aswell.
PS in 4th ed jump infantry were stated to start and end their movement on the ground.

could a dreadnought move 6" run d6" Then assault? Not sure if they have to have fleet or not...Or even if a dreadnought CAN get fleet.

Defiler is the only walker i know of with fleet so even more reason to give him 4 close combat weapons

||edit|| oh and choas Dreads if they roll a 6 on the crazed

a dreadnaught is not infantry so it can't run.

I don't know this just trying to understand, does the waaagh! rule say that orks can run and assault?

If your sying that stormboyzs don't get the waaagh rule becuase their jump infantry and not infantry, then doesn't this principal also appy to assault marines? You can't have one rule for one and not others.

Or am I missunderstanding something? Sorry if I am.

centy wrote:If a dreadnaught can run cause it is a walker then a guy with a jump pack would be able to aswell.
PS in 4th ed jump infantry were stated to start and end their movement on the ground.

PPS.. this isn't 4th edition, so comparisons of such just muddy the water.

if said guy with jump pack has a rule (space marine codex will be out soon, so we will see then) that says he can't do something, then you if, then thought holds no water .. apples and oranges.

covenant84 wrote:a dreadnaught is not infantry so it can't run.

I don't know this just trying to understand, does the waaagh! rule say that orks can run and assault?

If your sying that stormboyzs don't get the waaagh rule becuase their jump infantry and not infantry, then doesn't this principal also appy to assault marines? You can't have one rule for one and not others.

Or am I missunderstanding something? Sorry if I am.

WALKERS CAN RUN!!!!!!!!!!!
P.72

covenant84 wrote:a dreadnaught is not infantry so it can't run.

Psst! Page 72, Walkers shooting.

BEAT CHA TO IT!