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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 19:20:03
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
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Much bigger than I anticipated.
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"Don't have much use for a poop droid." - Iorek "Elusive has a bloodhound like capacity for finding hugely ugly minis." - tortoise |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 20:48:20
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Battleship Captain
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Huh. Interesting. They are significantly bigger than I expected. +2 for that. -1 for still looking like a Rock 'Em, Sock 'Em Robot.
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 20:59:00
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Still throughly disappointed with the Cogs. Concepts were so much better. Not that I play AT-43 but I'm still counting on those resin kits...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 21:01:12
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Clousseau
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Whoa nelly! That makes a real difference in terms of the missile-shoulder dudes.
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Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.
I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 22:01:42
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Larger is better.
But still not nearly as cool as the concepts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 07:40:00
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Calculating Commissar
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I'm surprised, too. i thought they'd be human-infantry-sized. I still don't like them, though. Will have to see what kind of vehicles they can get. Maybe something will leap out of the page to dazzle me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 14:28:34
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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[DCM]
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So far all these images are doing is leaping out of the page and poking my eyes out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 16:10:42
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Battleship Captain
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Alpharius wrote:So far all these images are doing is leaping out of the page and poking my eyes out.
In a good way or in a bad way, Alpharius?
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 16:11:52
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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[DCM]
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Sorry!
I mean in a bad way.
So far, nothing seems to "fit" in with the AT-43 universe.
I suppose that might be the point, but so far, not so good for me.
Plus, the poses are quite silly, and the weapons are too.
Odd choices.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/07/31 16:12:36
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 17:30:31
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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[DCM]
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His Master's Voice wrote:Still throughly disappointed with the Cogs. Concepts were so much better. Not that I play AT-43 but I'm still counting on those resin kits...
Fire Industries closed it's doors, so no more resin kits for now.
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-Aaron
Call For Fire
DA:80+S+GM(DPC)B++++I+Pw40k99+D++A++/mWD247R++T(M)DM+++++ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 17:33:01
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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[DCM]
Illustrator
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More on topic, I really think it's the posing that is really throwing a lot of people off the wagon with these guys. It's very awkward and unnatural.
Unfortunately converting and reposing would involve a good deal of cutting and GS'ing then repainting. A lot of work to do for every model in the army.
Let's see if they can fix the posing issue before the final releases.
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-Aaron
Call For Fire
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 17:36:42
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Battleship Captain
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I actually don't have a problem with the posing on the COG gunslinger - I think that's actually a pretty cool pose that I'd like to see more of in the 40k verse. But it's the ML equipped COG that I have posing problems with.
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 17:44:01
Subject: Re:AT-43 Cog size comparison
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40kenthus
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I don't have a problem with the "John Woo" poses. They should be plastic so it will be easy enough to change. I am surprised at the size of these I was expecting a horde or worm guys from Men in Black instead we are getting Ghost In the Shell Arm-Suits.
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Only now do I realize how much I prefer Pete Haines' "misprints" to Gav Thorpe's "brainfarts." :Abadabadoobaddon |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 21:47:44
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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grey_death wrote:Fire Industries closed it's doors, so no more resin kits for now.
Rackham said they will make resin or metal versions of PPP from At-43 and CAoR available through the Legends line. Though they also said they're the pinnacle of quality products, so my belief in any of their statements is rather limited ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 23:36:39
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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As you say, Rackham's said a lot of things in the past...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 00:05:49
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Actually Belial is being released as a resin miniature via the Legends line and more are to come. Tarascus, scenery and dragon are allready available ore going to be ready soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 00:33:28
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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[DCM]
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I stand happily corrected. ^_^.
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-Aaron
Call For Fire
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 01:33:47
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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You better sit down for the prices!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 02:01:56
Subject: Re:AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Im witholding judgement until I see them painted.
The size does help for me, and if the painting is done right it might help with the lifeless posing.
I do like the gunslinger ,, for obvious reasons.
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Big Troy, The Samurai Gunslinger of South Philly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 05:14:23
Subject: Re:AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Madrak Ironhide
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bigtmac68 wrote:Im witholding judgement until I see them painted.
The size does help for me, and if the painting is done right it might help with the lifeless posing.
I do like the gunslinger ,, for obvious reasons.
I don't think painted will matter much for me. Big helps, but I'm not
that interested in it right now. Maybe when they show the show-off models
(ie, not the production paints) I might be intrigued enough to consider
overpainting a set. I just feel like an idiot paying for prepainted stuff
that I paint over (which is why my Karmans slowed down)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 08:26:37
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Prices for resin are not much different form the ones Forgeworld charges and if you consider how small the runs for the bigger models are they are quite reasonable to a certain degree.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 09:55:22
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Duncan_Idaho wrote:Actually Belial is being released as a resin miniature via the Legends line and more are to come. Tarascus, scenery and dragon are allready available ore going to be ready soon.
Good, but I'm waiting for the smaller stuff like TacArms, Golems or infantry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 13:41:48
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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Alpharius wrote:So far, nothing seems to "fit" in with the AT-43 universe.
I suppose that might be the point, but so far, not so good for me.
Plus, the poses are quite silly, and the weapons are too.
Odd choices.
Do you even play AT-43? Even if you did, how can you say that something doesn't fit into the universe when Rackham probably doesn't really even know. The background isn't fully developed yet, so there is quite a bit of room for what "fits" into the universe.
The poses and weapons are silly?
Ok, I can jive with that, but it is funny hearing that from a person who plays an army where every model has bat wings on their heads...
Rockem sockem robots can be just as easily designated to those Tau Battlesuits everyone seems to use so often, yet I hear no derision directed at them.
Hell, when they were released everyone was slavering over them, yet these come out and now its bad?
Compared to what? Certainly not compared to tau battlesuits.
Put a tau battle suit next to that Cog on the far left there.
It is a subjective matter, but I am siding with the cogs having a better design on that particular instance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 22:04:21
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
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Hellfury wrote:Alpharius wrote:So far, nothing seems to "fit" in with the AT-43 universe.
I suppose that might be the point, but so far, not so good for me.
Plus, the poses are quite silly, and the weapons are too.
Odd choices.
The poses and weapons are silly?
Ok, I can jive with that, but it is funny hearing that from a person who plays an army where every model has bat wings on their heads... 
pssst... The Night Lords are the ones with the bat wings. He plays Alpha Legion.
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"Don't have much use for a poop droid." - Iorek "Elusive has a bloodhound like capacity for finding hugely ugly minis." - tortoise |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 01:30:32
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Hey Elusive, thanks for that! (I didn't notice it myself the first time around!)
For the Emperor indeed!
I put "fits" in quotes for a reason, the reason being that the Cog designs to date don't seem to gel with everything else released. (If it needs to be said: In My Opinion.)
Also, I'm not a fan at all of Necrons or Tau and would happily see them retconned right out of the fluff, so not sure where you were going with that one either...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 10:33:01
Subject: Re:AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Much bigger than I espected them to be.... actually also a lot worse then i imagined space slugs. The chance to bring cool space bugs was totally missed!
Is it me or this is similar, in a bad way, to starship wonky skinnies?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 15:46:00
Subject: Re:AT-43 Cog size comparison
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NAVARRO wrote:Much bigger than I espected them to be.... actually also a lot worse then i imagined space slugs. The chance to bring cool space bugs was totally missed!
Is it me or this is similar, in a bad way, to starship wonky skinnies?
It isn't just you...
But at least this group had the good graces to leave their helmets on to cover up their Extreme Fugliness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 17:32:53
Subject: AT-43 Cog size comparison
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I don't understand if these are skinny but big creatures inside body shell armour, or small creatures piloting Mech type armour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 20:13:17
Subject: Re:AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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if those are beings in armour then they are one skinny bunch of people. They would make and ethereal look like a pro-wrestler. They look more android-ish to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 22:35:08
Subject: Re:AT-43 Cog size comparison
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Battleship Captain
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NAVARRO wrote:Much bigger than I espected them to be.... actually also a lot worse then i imagined space slugs. The chance to bring cool space bugs was totally missed!
Is it me or this is similar, in a bad way, to starship wonky skinnies?
At least they don't have the coneheads that the skinnies did. Or am I thinking of a different line of emaciated alien enemies?
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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