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so ive been told that a new general codex for marines is comeing out in the near future, does that mean that chaos will also get a new codex???

Unfortunately, A does not equate B.

No new Chaos Codex has even been rumored.

Especially since chaos just got a new codex.

I think a more appropriate question is not when we will get a new Chaos codex but when we will get a Chaos codex that meets the expectations of exisiting Chaos players.

Eldramesha wrote:I think a more appropriate question is not when we will get a new Chaos codex but when we will get a Chaos codex that meets the expectations of exisiting Chaos players.

Sorry,not until the sky is falling.

No living person can fulfill the expectations of existing chaos players about their dex.

Hey, all they need to do is bring back two-wound Thousand Sons and I'll be happy.

Iorek wrote:Hey, all they need to do is bring back two-wound Thousand Sons and I'll be happy.

Because, you know, "any unit with 2 Wounds has a lot going for it."

I want the old Legion rules back. The fluff is in disarray now. feth you Gav Thorpe.

I'm tired of all the whining about the chaos codex. I know we lost our legions. I miss my bloodthirster and bloodletters. But it's still stupid powerful. Cult troops are troops no matter what mark you give your hq. You can have termies and oblits. They messed up the fluff, big deal. No more legion rules? No more craftworlds, either. Or ork clans. I prefer not having to take a special character to get goodies, like marines are getting. I just took over all in a tourney Saturday by beating three marine armies. Tougher marines? Bring em on. We need the challenge.

Rbb wrote:I just took over all in a tourney Saturday by beating three marine armies. Tougher marines? Bring em on. We need the challenge.

Props on the win, and on tougher marines, I do applaud your comment. I just, I dunno, wish marines were actually going to be tougher or interestingly better instead of so gimicky with required special characters and so many units that exist to take rules from other armies' cool units and then one up them.

And ironically, even though this is a thread actually about the chaos codex where whining about said codex would be for once justified ... I'll only reiterate how torqued I am that chaos dreads = retards in papermache armor, loyalist dreads = 3 flavors of decent to sweet (standard without going nuts, venerable WS5 BS5 reroll damage, siege AV13). Bugger that noise. And the other thing that chews at me is chaos lord's WS6 being nothing special with all those 1337 marine commanders now. But whatev, I can still take demon weapons and they can't

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Rbb wrote:But it's still stupid powerful.

Who cares if it's powerful when it's boring as bat gak to play.

BYE

Rbb wrote:I'm tired of all the whining about the chaos codex.

And I'm tired of the chaos codex. Once the chaos codex is gone then the whining about it will cease.

I prefer not having to take a special character to get goodies, like marines are getting.

I dunno, I prefer having to take a special character to get goodies than to not have goodies at all.

Boss_Salvage wrote:And the other thing that chews at me is chaos lord's WS6 being nothing special with all those 1337 marine commanders now.

Don't worry - your Chaos Lord is still special. Unlike Chapter Masters who have 4 Attacks your Chaos Lord has 3. This makes him more unique and differentiated!

But whatev, I can still take demon weapons and they can't

Actually, marines can take Dark Blades now. On their vet srgs. And there's no Mastery Test. And they get a 3+ inv save with it.

But our daemon weapons are a whole lot more FUN! Stop hitting yourself! It looks like those wacky Chaos Lords are up to their old antics again!

Heres a point people keep neglecting. Chaos Space Marines have bolters, bolt pistols and CC Weapons. In close combat they hit like 2 Loyalist Marines. And much like the last Chaos Codex chaos players should rely on their Champions to do the work and not their Lords or Sorcs.

The codex needs an update. With a bit of adjusting it could be pretty fair. I do miss the Legions though.

DonkeyCannon wrote:Heres a point people keep neglecting. Chaos Space Marines have bolters, bolt pistols and CC Weapons.

Once again, we don't care about their power. We care about how interesting they are. Right now, they're not. And the changes in then new Marine Codex (Cassius is tougher than Typhus, Tiggy is a better psyker than Ahriman, they can all get Dark Blades and super-Iron Halo Stormshields, their Commanders have more attacks than Chaos Lords) just make Chaos even more pathetic.

BYE

I do miss my Emperors Children. It was a wonderful fluffy army that never got cries of cheese.

I fully understand the power of the newest Chaos codex. I can see the power of oblits, plague marine troops, and sorcerers with Lash. Yes you can build an army that will dominate on the table top (more or less).

But I lost all my fluff, I lost everything that made my beloveded Damonettes different than someone else's bloodletters. They took away mutated hull, but gave it to loyalists. They took away vet skills, skills gained by living for 10,000 years, and give them to loyalists fresh off the assembly line.

This is why I'm pissed about what I see coming out of the new SM codex. They took everything away from Chaos leaving it bland and uniform and gave it to the Smurfs making them customizable and gifted.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

DonkeyCannon wrote:Heres a point people keep neglecting. Chaos Space Marines have bolters, bolt pistols and CC Weapons.

Once again, we don't care about their power. We care about how interesting they are. Right now, they're not. And the changes in then new Marine Codex (Cassius is tougher than Typhus, Tiggy is a better psyker than Ahriman, they can all get Dark Blades and super-Iron Halo Stormshields, their Commanders have more attacks than Chaos Lords) just make Chaos even more pathetic.

BYE

yeah but ...

nvm the chaos book sucks. The Spase Marinez even get better landraiders now. But chaos can still take ... they can take ... havoc launchers are pretty cool. And so is ... termies get combi-plasma.

Defiler is a cool kit.

You can make those cool towers in Apoc. And Khornate Warlords.

id have 2 agree with Jayden and Tacobake, we all miss the old csm, and ya right space marines seem to rag every good thing chaos gets, id say chaos are almost left out alot, but oh well, guess thats what happenes to a traitoring race lol

BDA

if you keep on playing/complaining about the CSM codex then don't play them, there is a lot more different/fluffy codex's and armies out there, i myself haven't played chaos space marines so i cant really say too much