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ive allways like some aspects of SM, but have been put off by the typical look of them, after looking through a few books i saw a pic of an iron hands iron father and fell in love with iron hands.
so theres the reason, now, im in need of help as to how to make easy bionics, mainly legs, arms and so on.
if anyone has an un-assembled iron hands tac squad or shoulder pads and bionics please pm me as i am interested in them.

the standard tac squad will mainly be just the vet. seargent with all the bionics, but some standard marines will have minor bionics (the odd arm leg or head)

one main idea i had, and i need C&C on it, is for the veteran squad, all will have bionic arms / heads, robed DA legs will be used, and i was thinking of using a necron body, but would the standard warrior body fit ok, or would the destroyer one fit better?
dont want them looking weird.

also, as for a dread idea, it will have twin linked lascannons and a CC wep with flamer.
the TL lascannons will be converted so it has 1 lascannon on each arm, for the CC wep i will incorperate a servo harness onto the power plant of the dread.
ok ish idea?

also, along with iron hands parts i am also interested in all servo skulls you may have and all iron hand ish power axes.

JD

oh, forgot to mention a few things about the vet. squad, all will have servo skull / skulls with them.
weapons: power maul (DA sprue, though warstor is out of them)
plasma pistol and CC shield.

just thought that this will get them looking right.


as for the iron father, the techmarine model is the best place to start, gives me a nice base, allthough ive thought about using techmarines as my vets, with a few alterations like losing the servo harness, but then they will look too much like the iron father, and i need him to stand out alot.

squad weapons: im mainly going for thunder hammers and power axes, power mauls
shooty weps: all plasma and melta, some lascannons and heavy bolters, allthough i may take rocket launchers instead of the HB's (never call it a missile launcher as it will live up to its name)

need help fairly seen ish.
and also, any ideas on terminator bionics? im thinking much larger than normal ones, but anything else?

Your easiest source of bionic bits is to get some cheap Necrons out of the bargain bucket at your FLGS and/or get some off people you know. (You could buy a new box but as you'll be hacking them up it hardly seems worth it)

As all the bits are plastic, conversions are a piece of cake and when combined with some wire, and green stuff can make some convincingly clunky, low-tech imp gear by taking the smooth lines off the 'crons.

Doing the cogs/spanners on the shoulder pads can actually be accomplished by working up the design on a computer and printing them onto fairly thick paper. Careful cutting with a craft knife will give you the shapes - just avoid complete circles as these won't fit snugly round the shoulder pads.

Good luck with your project and make sure we see pics!

thanks calvin, chances are ill just buy some necrons off ebay, usually find some cheap ones now and again, just need to order 2 boxes of iron hands tac squads off games workshop.
theres a start, and i guess ill go from there.

and ill make sure pics go up as i get started.

ok, just about to order a tac squad, and found someone selling some iron hands parts, is there anywhere i can get the techmarine axes from?
also, any idea what i can use the IG techpriest enginseer and FW titan tach guy for?
they fit in great with the army, just need to find a use, was thinking of using the techpriests as scouts, just need to make some snipers for em.

In case you didn't know the Iron Hand SM Set is still available in the collectors section of the US site:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1150124&prodId=prod1140236&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k

thanks devil, its also available from the uk site as normal, but it just works out cheaper to buy everything from here and ebay.
plus, i dont want everything looking the same, want some variation in my army and chances for convertions.

And if you haven't seen Freakforge's Iron Souls:
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/FreakForge/Rusted-Diorama/

they look pretty cool, got some SM scout snipers still in thier box, and a friend is dropping round his ols techpriest for me to tinker with, might make a good scout, or it could end up in my bitz box lol, which is comming close to weighing 12KG lol

just a few random unfinished pics of a gold iron hands colour scheme, need practice at painting human skin, this was my 1st attempt lol

Armour looks good. Head looks like it was dipped in molten metal, hehe.

i know dread, too many sun bed sessions
need to find a tutorial on painting skin lol, or maybe buy some skin colours XD
since i never painted skin, i havent had the need for such colours, and that was a random mix of browns, bleaches bone and skull white lol

i think i might go for the standard iron hands colours, thisjust looks weird.

he shall be known as ..........CHAV MARINE!

Actually...GS a cap on that guy and the skin would suddenly look a lot more fitting.

Do it. Do it now!

if he is being made into one of my iron hands vet seargents then his head is getting cut off and being replaced with a helmeted one
hate to kill a gamesday model, but its for the best

that doesent look too bad in gold, but would look better in black & silver, all it needs is to be made a bit taller, and some form of full servo harness.
dreads with 2 CC weps are great
just throw them at something S3-4 and enjoy lol, just keep away from power fists / klaws


Edit:
ok, dread idea roughly sorted.
forgeworld ven. dread will be a good starting point, needs the 2 CC weps.

feet will have spacers under them to build it up 5mm or so, it will be extended at the shins, the shin armour will be cut off, and plated armour like a techmarines legs will be made.
the top of the leg will also be extended a little, and the hip section will be bulked up a bit.
needs a nice long flowing tabard with a large iron hands icon on it, the head of the ven. dread will have a bionic eye GS'ed onto it.
the arms will be made a little longer (10mm or so)

it will have a 4 armed servo harness made for it, not sure what to use for that as of yet, thinking either scratch built plasticard arms, or maybe even the wrecking ball arm from the new trukk, might need a bit of tidying up though.

also, it will be in a running pose making it looks like its charging at something, one arm forward the other looking like its about to swing at someone.
pose on the servo harness is not been decided as of yet.

last but not least, will need a few servo skulls around it to make it feel even more mech ish.
and unsure on base, that will be a last minute thought thing lol

ok, after having a look at some parts and checking a friends MK IV dread i decided against it, for more than a few reasons.

1: feet are on the base, need to make then higher, but due to this it wont work.

2: need to be able to cut the legs in several places, once again, wont work due to solid construction.

3. body, decided against the head thats built into the sarcophigus just due to its look, it looks too SM, i want something that looks different, more machine than marine.
so the normal plastic dread will be used.

all parts have been ordered, should turn up on monday and i can get started.

Here is a link to my Iron hands army i it helps you at all
http://www.pbase.com/frazervisser

thanks grandmaster, thats pretty much how im building my army, only annoying thing is that i want termies, vets and dreads, all 3 being elite, so i might just make a tourney legal army and add units i like just for show.

also im not having heavy weps in my tac squads, just having 2 special weps instead (melta and flamer / plasma)
so i dont love movement to fire and i can still destroy tanks and heavy armour.

Mine was built from the original IH list that me me have an Iron Father and ven dread as HQs but no Termie squads. The only Termies i could have were as sergeants, but this was a rhino rush army so that did not work.

I loved my IH they were my favorite army in 3rd edition

do ven dreads still count as HQ? havent got the SM codex just yet, and since a new one was comming out i want to wait and see whats changed.

ordered a tac squads and parts to convert now.
also ordered a dread and plasticard, now need ideas for an over sized servo harness for the dread, needs to look the right size so i was thinking about using 4 of the grabbers from the ork trukk, as for the arms, they will be kept a secret untill its done.

JD21290 wrote:do ven dreads still count as HQ? havent got the SM codex just yet, and since a new one was comming out i want to wait and see whats changed.

No as i say this was back in 3rd edition i did the army almost 4 years ago now

i hate it when GW does that :K
might even think about making 2 IH armies, that way i can include everything i want, can then use either one or a mix for tourneys.

im thinking of using this: (points not worked out yet)

HQ:

iron father
chaplin

Elite:

5 termies
ven dread
5 - 10 vets

Troop:

5 scout snipers
5 scout snipers
10 man tac squad
10 man tac squad
10 man tac squad
10 man tac squad

Fast:

3 landspeeder typhoons
5 bikes
1 attack bike

Heavy:

vindicator
whirlwind (useless, but look good)
5 man dev squad, 4 lascannons.

just a base so far, knowing me it will be changed alot.

might throw in a rhino or 2 to use as a shield and a razorback or 2 for same use and a little fire support.
may even swap the whirlwind for a predator (unsure which one yet)

ok, incase anyone has any of this, might aswell post a list of parts wanted.

all techmarine parts, mainly the axes.
all bionics.
ork trukk grabber arm x4

pm me if selling any of this.

need some tips now, need to build 4 servo arms for a dread, any ideas on rough shaping?

parts have arrived, well, some of them :K
customs currently have 1 tac squad untill i pay thier £15 fee for checking it for me :K
so nice of them

but th dread, 1 tac squad and some iron hands parts arrived, just throwing them ogether now.
unlike my last SM armies, this time i plan on using most of the junk on the sprues (purity seals, pouches ect) to bulk them up, and should make them looked better equipped, even if im not

but moving on, pics of the tac squad and dread will be up later.
and i managed to get enough parts to spread between tac squads, and each marine gets 2 of either: bionic legs, arms, head, and they even get a nice new shoulder pad
so thy dont look too empty or to crowded, managed to find a happy medium.
instad of spraying em black im going bck to my old ways of painting them black since it gives it a better coat (1 heavy coat followed by a thinner one to remove any brush lines) and this should be a start

alo, on a side note, drop pods or rhino's for the tac squads?
i was thinking drops are more mech like, but i still love rhino's

Just a few basic pics so far, dread will have all 4 weapon otions painted up for use incase i feel the need for change, and the way the arms are fitted means i dont need to pin or use magnets

ill get em undercoated after work tomorrow then i can start some real work on em after that while i wait for the 2nd tac to turn up.

bases are on hold, since i just t back into gaming my glue dried up and the GF threw out all my basing stuff :(
so thats on order now.