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Death Company Chapalin w/ jump pack, frag grenades: 201
2 Tac squads of 8 (1 flamer, 1 plasmagun): 256
2 Tac squads of 7: 210
Dreadnaut w/ twin lascannon, smoke launcher: 128
'Furioso' Dreadnaut w/ heavy flamer, smoke launchers: 108
Landspeeder Tornado assaultcannon:80
Devestator Squad of 7, 3 missile, 2 heavy bolt, 1 lascannon: 200

That's 973 points. what else should i throw in? i was thinking a teminator squad and maybe a honor guard. models i have already: 5 scouts w/ sniper rifles, 5 assault squad. (i would put them in the honor guard to make 10)

i'm new to this so any help would be great

Um. Your list is beyond illegal. I have no idea where you are getting your points costs from.

yeah.. this has no relation to the current blood angel codex. download the PDF, rework your list, repost it and I'd be happy to look at it again

NaZ

There has been a new BA codex released in 2007, its down loadable from GW's website.

i bought the old one... dammit. i made this new list so help needed.

HQ
Chaplain w/ Jump Pack-120

Troops
Tactical Squad A 10 men, 1 flamer-195
Tactical Squad B 10 men, 1 plasma gun-200
Scout Squad 5 men, 5 Sniper Rifles-105
Elites
Death Company 10 men (+5 extra correct me if i added the squads wrong) Jump Packs-225
Veteran Assault Squad 10 men, jump packs, (i would like to have 2 power weaps but can't find where to take out the points)-275
'Furioso' Dreadnaut heavy flamer Death Company Dread-130 (drop pod?)
Dreadnaut twin-linked lascannon?-160
Devastator Squad 5 men, 2, missile launchers, 2 heavy bolters-185
Totals: 1595 points (i want 1500) and now there are 53 models.

i need to lose 95 points in this army plus any other negatives from other equipment. i don't have all of these models yet but am getting closer. once i get the $60 set i'll also have terminators if you think they are better.

just making sure. is this list legal?

You've got a little bit of everything here.

1st and foremost, choose what you are. Are you a mechanized force, with rhinos, land raiders, etc? Are you a shooting/counter assault force (best not done with the BA, there are other Marine armies that do that idiom better), or are you a jump pack assault force? There's also the drop pod build as well.

At 1500, I'd say that one HQ is plenty. Go with Lemartes, he'll control your DC.

125 Lemartes
260 Tac1, Flamer, PF, Rhino
260 Tac 2, Flamer, PF, Rhino
275 Regular Assault, PF
275 Regular Assault, PF
210 Vet Assault, LC, Melta Gun x2, Melta Bombs x2
95 7 DC with Jump Packs 5 Free+ 2 purchased.

1500

Use your Rhinos to screen your jumpers, and be aggressive. You should be in assault on the second turn.

i have the dreads and the heavy for taking out tanks. i could replace them with other jump troops cus i really like the jump infantry so would taking out the devestator squad for another assault or honor guard and give each a melta? i will be facing mostly tyranids so i wanted a lot of shots, a lot of death company (they murdered the nids the other day).

With the list above, you have the troops for taking out other troops, and the only tanks you need to worry about are av14 all around tanks. If you assault a leman russ, you're going to hit it in the rear AV (10) LC and ML don't cut it at range. Melta, Melta, Melta. Melta is great for the following reasons:

1. It's assualt. It doesn't hamper your mobility.
2. It's high enough STR to instant kill half the characters in the game, at least those still affected by Instant Death.
3. It still wounds t6 on a 2+, so it's great at softening up Monsterous Creatures prior to assault.
4. It negates FNP.
5. The obvious effects against tanks w/in 6".
6. It gets + 1 on the glance/pen chart.

It's 12' range is less of a problem on an army intent on moving towards the enemy, especially with an army with jump packs.

The dreads won't be as effective vs nids if he has big bugs.

Sergeants with PF, and never leave home without melta bombs. You won't use them against nids probably, but they make assault marines great tank hunters, though not as good as attack bikes

my only advice if your playing BA keep it fast, keep it assaulty (the way BA should be played imo) and please god dont take a dev squad especially not a 5 man one with 4 heavy weapons if he even looks at it you lose half your weps on em and the points are seriously wasted

Shrike78 wrote:For your assault marines you should get flamers vs nids. Sergeants with PF, and never leave home without melta bombs. You won't use them against nids probably, but they make assault marines great tank hunters, though not as good as attack bikes

Shrike, BA Regular assault squads can't get flamers.

yeah.. i realize that now.. dam