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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/05 01:19:25
Subject: Where do i need to improve?
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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Heres a few shots of my Traitor Guard army, and for some reason it just doesn't look right.
If you guys could give me a few pointer on how to make them look better that would be appreciated.
cheers
LL
Counts as grey knight grand master/ordo malleus inq? (now has a powerfist on left hand)
some troops
and a plauge preist
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/05 02:23:12
Subject: Where do i need to improve?
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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At the moment the only thing I can think of is blending. It seems you really like to wash things, and while this is great for speed painting looks kind of "dirty" and well washed when used to much. I would say work on doing some gradual highlights (maybe trying triads or something similar) or even drybrushing layers. You may also want to look into drilling gun barrels. Although that's more of a personal thing for me. All and all I think right now you're an excelent table top quality painter and just a few minor improvements would push it over the top, of course this will take more time per model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/05 02:45:21
Subject: Where do i need to improve?
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Huge Hierodule
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TBH, I don't think he's done any washing. Take a look at the guns. There is no definition. IMO, you need to find a couple of test minis and practice.
Here's a primer for new painters
http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/new_painter.php
Next, work on your basecoats. You're probably applying one thin coat over black, which is why so much black is bleeding through. You'll need a couple of coats or take a look at the foundation paint. They are pretty nice.
Next, once you have a solid basecoat, look into the Citadel Washes, they are pretty nice too.
Here's an example of what you can do with 1 spray coat, 1 base coat (red), 1 wash (brown) and some details
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/05 02:55:36
Subject: Where do i need to improve?
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[DCM]
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going to agree with Iffy after a quick scan through of your pics. Coverage is one of the top issues most painters starting out have issues with. Another is making the paint too thick because they're worried about coverage!
Thin paint is good, but equal coverage with it is the trick. This means multiple layers with good paint and brush control.
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-Aaron
Call For Fire
DA:80+S+GM(DPC)B++++I+Pw40k99+D++A++/mWD247R++T(M)DM+++++ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/05 03:02:38
Subject: Where do i need to improve?
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Huge Hierodule
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You might also want to make your pics a little smaller. They're pretty big. You've also gone quite over the tops with the blood. Try backing off on the blood on the blades a bit and be a little more judicious with where you apply it. I think you will like the effect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/05 03:30:56
Subject: Where do i need to improve?
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[DCM]
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As the others have said plus:
Do another of paint layer over the wash to bring the colour back on the edges.
Washing is a great way to quickly tone colours but you need adequate coverage beforehand and to use appropriate washes for each part.
For example the dark brown GW wash (can't remember name) on the metal and brown leather. The mid brown on wood. And baal red wash over the red cloth, then rehighlight the cloth, drybrush the wood the original brown and edge the metal with chainmail or boltgun metal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/05 04:04:32
Subject: Where do i need to improve?
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Stormin' Stompa
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The scabred/redgore on the pants/robes stands out first - two coats is necessary for non-white based tones over black, and most other colours could still use the second coat. Like greydeath says - multiple layers makes for a nice even finish.
The 'wood-grain' on the axe handle is a common feature in citadel minis, and developing a technique for it helps it not look like smudged... bestial or snakebite or whatever you brushed on there. Start with a basecoat of scorched brown (I usually put a bit of dark flesh in too), then use the side of the brush to paint a midway basecoat/bestial brown on the raised areas. Then bring it up to bestial brown itself, and experiment with snakebite, bone, white and even grey to find the final highlight that sits with the rest of the colour scheme.
Same on the robes - after you put on a couple of thin coats of scab red or red gore (letting them dry in between!), give it a light wash (if using citadel inks WATER THEM DOWN, like two parts water  ne part ink). The baal red wash that 'Gonads mentioned is perfect if you're going to highlight up to a red or orange sort of finish... I'd personally brown it a bit because freshly dyed red doesn't look to suit these figs.
Look up similar models, like the Archaon whfb, on the GW website - they feature painting guides, so find similar models and appropriate the techniques to the colours you want to use. My personal rule is that you can't make up shadows, midtones and highlights in the general tone you're working on, then you need more paint. Since you're in brizzy, just go to the GW in Queen St and use their paint, actually.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/05 04:45:15
Subject: Re:Where do i need to improve?
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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I think you could greatly improve using the new foundation paints/washes
I think the blending/layering can be a lot better. thin your paints down to a milky, near transluscent consistency when layering on shades of color. mix with white/black to adjust the color intensity when creating shades/layers of color. start with a good dark foundation then work your way up to lighter colors
another way which is far less technical is with the new washes. put down several layers and then wash it to create a glazed/blending effect. using the washes you cant go from dark to light, only light to dark, so put your colors down vibrantly first
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/05 16:28:38
Subject: Re:Where do i need to improve?
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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I would have to say stop using black wash for everything. Try using a more color appropriate wash on the different parts of the model. i.e. Dark brown wash on the brown boots etc.
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