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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 06:37:12
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
Anchorage
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Was wondering if melta bombs had an AP value, didn't see one in the basic rule book, don't have it handy to double check. I know melta weapons tend to be AP1, but didn't think the bombs had such a value listed since you can't shoot with them. It would sort of make sense that they get the AP1 benefit on the chart, and would make them somewhat useful against monoliths...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 06:39:03
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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yeah id assueme with "melta" in the title they get all the bennies that any "melta" weapons do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 07:02:08
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Meltabombs have no AP value, as none is listed in any rules.
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Quote: Gwar - What Inquisitor said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 07:08:17
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Sacramento, CA
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Rules as written, they don't. Forget they have any connection to melta guns for a moment. The rules only say they are used against vehicles and roll 8+2d6 against them, and nothing else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 07:21:37
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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In contrast to how I feel it should be. They are right according RAW they have no AP. Assulting a vehicle you get back armor anyways. personaly i hate killing myself when the stupid thing explodes, getting caught in the blast and all. Perhaps it will be FAQ 'ed some day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 10:21:19
Subject: Re:Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Morphing Obliterator
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melta-bombs are effectively a close combat weapon. close combat weapon do not have AP values. you will not get any change to the vehicle damage chart when you attack it in close combat. you will however get a S8 +2d6 attack on the rear armour.
it is possible for a weapon to have the 'melta' special rule without being AP1, and although no examples come to mind, having the melta rule doesnt automatically bestow AP1.
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taking up the mission
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 12:40:49
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Of course, the original post referred to making them useful against monoliths ...
Where you only get the 8+ 1d6 vs rear armour of 14.
Same against a Land Raider, really. Except you can at least stop them shooting by stripping their guns. Monoliths always have their ordnance zot! weapon.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 16:12:39
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Except on average, a Meltabomb will get a penetrating it on a Landraider, the average roll on 2d6 being 7....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 16:54:02
Subject: Re:Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Been Around the Block
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I believe that inferno pistols in WH codex are AP2, though they have the melta rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/10 20:10:16
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Long Beach, CA
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Yes they are "melta" so they get the extra dice. However they are not AP1.
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"Do NOT ask me if you can fire the squad you forgot to shoot once we are in the assault phase, EVER!!!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 09:02:21
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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To be 100% sure they don't have any penalties either right? Since they don't have an AP value but are close combat attacks they don't receive a -1 either correct?
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"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
-Joseph Stalin
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 12:20:44
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
Beijing,China
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In what edition close combat attacks suffer -1 modifier?
Never heard of this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 15:14:29
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Inferno Pistols are AP1 in my WH Codex...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 16:44:44
Subject: Melta bombs, do they have an AP value?
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Widowmaker
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Melta bombs are a close combat attack. As close combat weapons do not have an AP value (this is different from having an AP value '-'), any rules regarding AP are ignored.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/09/11 16:45:31
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