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I followed the proper instructions on the `Ard Boyz flier (one of only a couple at my store who did) and brought my own glue. Not sure where it ended up. Got a new bottle of the GW super glue this week, and the glue is behaving in a manner I don't recall having problems with before using the GW stuff. It's drying Really fast. The very surface area of any glue drops is turning into a white film seconds after contact with air. When the glue dries, it's pushing out of the seams more than usual, and making rough white crud lines. I have to unclog the bottle almost every time I go to use it, even if it's only a minute or two apart.

Have they changed their glue since the last time I got a bottle (they last forever, love em), did I just get a bad batch, or is there some environmental condition I'm not aware of that's messing with it?

Your glue is possessed. Burn it.

only time ive had those probs with glue is the cheap crap that explodes when squeezed.
(forgot to pierce the end)
never had any probs with GW glue yet.

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

I can't imagine any chemicals have seperated, but try shaking it up some. Failing that, get a new tube, it's not worth the hassle of dealing with something like that. Also, get some de-bonder also. Costs just as much as the glue but always handy for overflow and mess ups.

Shook the glue up very thoroughly. Didn't help. I did some test drops, open air on some surfaces, and it's really weird, as it seems to having a chemical reaction to the air. You put a drop down, and it sits there like a normal drop of glue for a few seconds, then it starts to fiz up, turns cloudy and shrivels up. It's dry to the touch after ten seconds, but not hard. It's like a slower version of zip kicker.

Pitch it. Super Glue / CA is for metal, not plastic. Buy Testors plastic glue!

what's the weather like where you are?

If it's hot and humid, this would explain the glue drying and crudifying like that.

It could also be crap glue.

Don't use GW superglue. Why pay a premium for second-rate glue?

Wonderful day. Capped out around 80 degrees outdoors, 75 inside with the AC on. Not what I would call humid. Nothing really outside ordinary really.

And I've always liked the GW glue for the most part. I like the size/shape of the bottles. Plus I can get it on my store credit.

Alright, the glue is fine, it's not the problem. The problem is the air inside my house apparently. I took it outside, put some drops of glue on a piece of cardboard, and watched em. No reactions after plenty of time. A few seconds after coming back inside, they shriveled up. That's... Really rather concerning. I think I'm going to go open some windows now.

FWIW, I like to sprinkle a little talc on CA when I'm joining stuff - it makes for a tighter bond.

Ah, lack of humidity is just as bad, apparently.

I don't usually get that kind of crudifying, as I use a lot less glue (and you really should use a poly cement for plastics.)

Lack of humidity makes sense. Cyanocrylate uses the hydrogen from water molecules in the air to 'fix' the chains of acrylic.

So...

You mentioned Zip kicker so, obviously, you're aware of it and you know how it works.

Do you use it? Not on THESE pieces... just in general?
If so, are you sloppy with it? I mean, some people just start spraying it & let it go wherever it goes some people (like me on the RARE occasion that I use it) hold the bottle a fraction of an inch away from the piece and press the top so that only the slightest bit comes out onto the area where they're working.

That can make a difference.
I've experienced it where Zip Kicker was used on a piece of a model (or anything, really) and HOURS or even DAYS later, when superglue is used in the same area, there is still a residue that causes the glue to harden, like with accellerator. Apparently, even evaporation doesn't get rid of Zip Kicker's chemicals/effects.

Eric

Good to know you got it figured out.

And to those who say GW glue is crap...well they are just being a bit ignorant IMO. GW glues is quite a bit cheaper than ANY glue on the market.

A premium? hahahaha...

You might think you pay more, but look at quantity, you get 10x or more than most companies, and not anywhere near 10x the price.

Also, GW glues, when cared for a small bit rarely have problems of glue drying the bottleneck, like a few others do.

I'm by no means a GW fanboy, but I hate it when these ignorant comments come out with no basis in fact.

Used kicker in the past, but not in some years. And then I didn't usually spray the stuff, I would use the tube like a dropper, and just put a little bit on.

All the windows in my house sat open since last night, good breeze thru the house today, fans on in a couple of the windows, and the glue still goes to crud about 5 seconds after it hits the air. No reaction if I just stand on my front porch, but crud about 5 seconds after I come back inside.

i think your house is possessed.
doesent want you making anything

just watch out for beeding walls.

Kicker is some terrible stuff, weakens the bond, but either way sounds like a crap batch. Sometimes I get a bad batch that takes a while to set up- so I leave it out with the top off for a few days and that does the trick. But that is weird

Joyous_Oblivion wrote:Good to know you got it figured out.

And to those who say GW glue is crap...well they are just being a bit ignorant IMO. GW glues is quite a bit cheaper than ANY glue on the market.

A premium? hahahaha...

You might think you pay more, but look at quantity, you get 10x or more than most companies, and not anywhere near 10x the price.

Also, GW glues, when cared for a small bit rarely have problems of glue drying the bottleneck, like a few others do.

I'm by no means a GW fanboy, but I hate it when these ignorant comments come out with no basis in fact.

I don't know what you're talking about. Give ME some basis in fact that GW glue is cheaper than ANY glue. Their cement is acceptable, especially in Aus where there aren't as many hobby brands available off the shelf... but GW superglue? I could get four and a half ounces of green stuff (not from GW) for the price of GW glue last time I checked.

Joyous_Oblivion wrote:Good to know you got it figured out.

And to those who say GW glue is crap...well they are just being a bit ignorant IMO. GW glues is quite a bit cheaper than ANY glue on the market.

A premium? hahahaha...

You might think you pay more, but look at quantity, you get 10x or more than most companies, and not anywhere near 10x the price.

Also, GW glues, when cared for a small bit rarely have problems of glue drying the bottleneck, like a few others do.

I'm by no means a GW fanboy, but I hate it when these ignorant comments come out with no basis in fact.

GW Super glue is comparable in price to other similar glues but I've found Zap-a-gap to work much better for me personally. As for the plastic glue, GW in canada is $8 for 0.7 fl oz., Testors is $1.99 for 0.625 Fl oz, almost a quarter the price. I'm not sure why the plastic glue is so overpriced but its GW, their hobby supplies go from on par to several times as much for no real reason.

Ok, I'm back to blaming the glue again. I found an old bottle of glue with some left in it. How old? The plastic bottle was turning yellow old, and the glue was getting thickish. Anyways, some tests of that glue, and it didn't have any of the problems the new one had. Odd inspiration, and I mixed a bit from each bottle. The new glue thinned out the old glue, and it no longer turned to crud. The amount missing from the new, and left in the old, was conveniently similar, so I figured what the hey, and dumped the old into the new. Shook it all up, tested it out, and presto, works exactly like how I expect my glue to work.

Whatever was up with this, I'm just glad I think it's over now.

Um, I'd still be concerned about the air quality in the house. The experiment you conducted with the glue outside then inside isn't damning, but it's not something to be ignored. Having air in your house that is THAT different from the air ourside just cannot be good.

I have the same issue but not w/ the gw super glue it is the humidity in the air or the model has some water on it

Superglue is like that, persnickety. I prefer the two-part five minute epoxy for metal, and model cement for plastic. You have to get the knack of mixing the two components equally, and the right amount for what you're gluing within its span of usability, but it works wonderfully. If you don't want to pin your models, use some rough sandpaper to rough up the surfaces, which gives the epoxy more surface area to bond to. And finally, I know it stinks, but that's just one of those things either you get over it or not. I'm not judging. You can also use it on plastics, if you get flak about using model glue, since the fumes can be somewhat brain-destroying.