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Do Lictors have to take a Deep strike mishap roll every time they enter play these days?

   
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No, you can deploy the lictors into any area terrain, and only impassable terrain, off the table, and on models forces a mishap roll.

That said, the way everything is written now they would have to take a dangerous terrain test for deep striking into difficult terrain, and I'm not sure if deep striking them on impassable terrain they could ignore the mishap roll or just ignore a result of 1-2 on it since their special rules say "If this terrain is classed as impassable, the Lictor will not be destroyed but instead placed as normal".

Most opponents if you explain the situation should be okay with deploying a lictor into a piece of area terrain with no ill effects as the rule was intended to do that.

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By RAW, yes.

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Centurian, I think you are incorrect there, lictors only need to come in on area terrain, including such things as trees and ruins which only cause a dangerous terrain test, not a mishap roll.

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I assumed he was talking about the dangerous terrain test, instead of rolling on the mishap table. My bad.

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Slightly different question.

When DSing onto impassable terrain, you roll on the mishap table.
Lictors can DS onto impassable terrain, but doesn't *specifically* say you dont' roll mishap.

Does a lictor DSing onto impassable terrain roll on the mishap table?
   
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I believe they can ONLY DS/SD into difficult terrain

Please note - terms like 'always/never' are carried with the basic understanding that there are exceptions to the rule, and therefore are used to mean generally...




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Lictors (and anything else with flesh hooks) treats impassable terrain as difficult.

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Centurian99 wrote:Lictors (and anything else with flesh hooks) treats impassable terrain as difficult.
That's "vertically impassable terrain such as high walls or cliffs" according to the tyranid rules, so anything impassable that isn't a sheer face remains impassable, or that's my understanding.

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Yeah, they let you scramble up a cliff, but not walk across lava.
OTOH, the lictor can deepstrike onto lava.

But I don't know which would take precedence, the mishap for lava, or the codex saying it is okay.
   
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coredump wrote:Yeah, they let you scramble up a cliff, but not walk across lava.
OTOH, the lictor can deepstrike onto lava.

But I don't know which would take precedence, the mishap for lava, or the codex saying it is okay.


The thing is the codex specifically says that the lictor doesn't die for deep striking onto impassable terrain, which would by my reading only nullify a roll of 1-2 on the mishap table.

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Drunkspleen wrote:"If this terrain is classed as impassable, the Lictor will not be destroyed but instead placed as normal".


Actually, it says he is placed as normal, and since codex trumps rulebook, you don't roll on the mishap chart and instead just roll scatter and place the fig on the impassible terrain as normal. Note, that you cannot move in impassible terrain (except for vertically impassible terrain) so if you land in a lava lake, your lictor is stuck . Personally, you should clear this with the guy you game with as it makes for some interesting scenarios, like a Lictor crawling down a silo tower, ect.

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