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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/14 03:53:39
Subject: 1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Beast of Nurgle
Within the Warp
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Trying to make an all comers list with DeathGuard. Im a big fan of Nurgle, and I normally run Chaos Daemons. I am looking to add some Stability to the daemons instability. Plus I miss shooting weaponry. Here goes the list.
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Typhus
Summoned Greater Daemon
Elites:
4 Terminators; 1 w/Chain fist; LandRaider
Troops:
7 Plague Marines: Plasma, Plasma, Champion Upgrade; Rhino E.Armor
7 Plague Marines: Plasma, Plasma, Champion Upgrade; Rhino E.Armor
7 Plague Marines: Melta, Melta; Rhino E.Armor
Heavy:
Vindicator: Demonic Possession
Vindicator: Demonic Possession
I know there has to be some weak points all over the place in this list? Any suggestions. I prefer to run with Typhus (I know he is expensive).. I kind of went with PlagueMarines because of him.. So any list working around him would be great.
Thanks Looking forward to all responses.
Mau Smash!
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Mausama - MAU SMASH!!!
I play Chaos Daemons and Chaos Space Marines.
Chaos Daemons - 4000 points
Chaos Space Marines: 3500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/14 04:13:52
Subject: 1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A longer reach might be something. Maybe switch the Vindicators with Defilers, getting the 10 points to do so from switching your Plasma Guns to Melta Guns on the second squad? If you're going to do that, then I suggest having the squad without the Champion take the pair of Plasma Guns, because the squads with the Champions need to close for when the Greater Daemon pops out.
Also, you only have three Champions which the Greater Daemon can Possess. That's pretty risky, even if they are all Champions of Nurgle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/14 04:13:54
Subject: 1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Springhurst, VIC, Australia
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i dont think that you need to vindicators as if you lose the battle cannon then it is useless and for the points is a real risk running 2. i would suggest a dreadnought [i know people hate them, but when i face them they earn back 3 times there points on average] or some lesser demons and a spawn or 2.
But i maybe wrong, i only fight against them not with them.
if you can find the points, go for 10 bikers with mark of nurgle, unstoppable
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/14 04:17:19
Subject: 1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Squig_herder:
Vindicators have a Demolisher Cannon, not a Battle Cannon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/14 04:27:33
Subject: Re:1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Beast of Nurgle
Within the Warp
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Alright here are some changes; what you all think of this list.
Typhus
Summoned Greater Daemon
Elites:
4 Terminators; LandRaider
Troops:
7 Plague Marines: Plasma, Plasma, Champion Upgrade; Rhino E.Armor
7 Plague Marines: Plasma, Plasma, Champion Upgrade; Rhino E.Armor
7 Plague Marines: Melta, Melta; Rhino E.Armor
Heavy:
Defiler
Defiler
You think 2 Champions will be risky before the greater daemon pops out? On Average he should pop out around turn 3.. I think it will take time before someone will chew through 2 squads of Plague Marines.. Most of the time, they wont see enemy contact until turn 3.. unless folks are DSing.
On a Side note; I already own 2 Soul Grinders.. you think people will gripe Im running my SGs as Defilers? Actually I dont like Defilers Models, but the SGs are Tight!
Looking forward to responses.
Mausama!
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Mausama - MAU SMASH!!!
I play Chaos Daemons and Chaos Space Marines.
Chaos Daemons - 4000 points
Chaos Space Marines: 3500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/14 04:32:48
Subject: 1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
Beijing,China
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Champion must have a fist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/14 04:39:06
Subject: 1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Beast of Nurgle
Within the Warp
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tokugawa wrote:Champion must have a fist.
My First run this list they had Fists.. But i thought what if a GD possesses them? That would be a waste of 25 points.. Then i thought well I could give just 1 of them fists. Then I would sub consciously limit what Champion my GD will possess.. i want him to be somewhat where I need him, not be thinking "Damn I just wasted that fist, but I needed that GD is best in that area"..
You feel me?
Mausama
Edit* Grammer.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/10/14 04:40:01
Mausama - MAU SMASH!!!
I play Chaos Daemons and Chaos Space Marines.
Chaos Daemons - 4000 points
Chaos Space Marines: 3500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/14 04:40:27
Subject: 1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think that leaves you with 5pts left over if you're dropping the Chainfist, which would be worth spending on a Combi-Melta just in case someone tries to run you over in a Tank Shock.
Taking Soul Grinders as Defilers seems fine so long as you trade the Twin-Linked Heavy Flamethrower and the Reaper Autocannon for extra Close Combat Arms. In that configuration the Soul Grinder is most WYSIWYG like the Defiler.
As for the Champions, it really doesn't take that long to chew through seven Plague Marines if you're using the right equipment (Plasma Cannons, Starcannons, Plasma Rifles, etc). Still, it looks like a handy army, though fast-moving Eldar might run circles around you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/14 14:51:07
Subject: Re:1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Beast of Nurgle
Within the Warp
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Another Modification; this one appears to me to be alittle balanced.
HQ:
Typhus
Summoned Greater Daemon
Elites:
4 Terminators; Mark of Nurgle; LandRaider
Troops:
7 Plague Marines: Plasma, Plasma, Champion Upgrade; Rhino E.Armor
7 Plague Marines: Plasma, Plasma, Champion Upgrade; Rhino E.Armor
7 Plague Marines: Champion Upgrade, Melta; Rhino E.Armor
Heavy:
Vindicator: Demonic Possession
Defiler
haha, you see I threw that back vindicator in there; I have the model so I wanna try to use it, or I will feel dirty wasting 30$.. However, I managed to squeeze another Champion in for an additional option for the greater daemon. I plan to play this list Very Aggressive, and try to put the heat on early; the only unit that wouldnt be soo aggressive will be the defiler, Ill keep him walking and shooting Ord, while hanging back.
Looking forward to your responses;
Mausama!
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Mausama - MAU SMASH!!!
I play Chaos Daemons and Chaos Space Marines.
Chaos Daemons - 4000 points
Chaos Space Marines: 3500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/15 21:29:08
Subject: 1750 DeathGuard (New to CSM)
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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TBH i wouldnt take the defiler switch it back to the vindicator and typhus is too expsensive for a list like this. I woud take out land raider and typhus, switch typhus with demon prince mark of nurgle and nugles rot or gift of chaos. replace the land raider with another plague marines squad,take out the greater demon and spend the points on 1 more termy and a rhion for the extra squad. I would go with something like this: HQ demon prince mon,nurgle's rot,wings. 165 Elites 5 terminators mark of nurgle,5 combi-meltas. 225 Troops 7 Plague marines 2x plasma,champ,power weapon. 7 Plague marines 2x plasma,champ,power weapon. 7 Plague marines 2x melta,champ,powerfist. 7 plague marines 2x melta,champ,powerfist. Heavy support vindicator demonic possesion 145 vindicator demonic possesion 145 Rhino Rhino Rhino Rhino i think thats about right Just what i'd do.
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