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hurray!

hurrah!

At last a compotent man in office.

And what a win, he has quite a margin.

Woot.

Blah. I hope Nader got %11 of the vote so they will let him debate. Well I guess theres always 2012.

Just a reminder, keep it civil, folks. It hasn't gone sour yet, but the night is young (and I'm sure there's lots of alcohol on both sides; yay Octoberfest!).

Iorek wrote:Just a reminder, keep it civil, folks. It hasn't gone sour yet, but the night is young (and I'm sure there's lots of alcohol on both sides; yay Octoberfest!).

I was gonna post things, but then I thought better of it because I'm invested in the Military(well, Married in, anyway) and Obama's a very sore subject on bases(mostly due to his wanting to eliminate Housing Allowance pay).

Well this country is going to hell in a handbasket does anyone know hoe to apply for irish citizenship?

Platuan4th wrote:

Iorek wrote:Just a reminder, keep it civil, folks. It hasn't gone sour yet, but the night is young (and I'm sure there's lots of alcohol on both sides; yay Octoberfest!).

I was gonna post things, but then I thought better of it because I'm invested in the Military(well, Married in, anyway) and Obama's a very sore subject on bases(mostly due to his wanting to eliminate Housing Allowance pay).

Well lets see..the Dems want to cut 25% of the Mil Budget....there goes BAH...BAS...there will be cuts in manpower end strength....8 years under Clinton I could almost grin and bear it...this may turn out to be an entirely different matter.

The only upside is that they may offer early retirement for guys like me (I owe 23)...I've done my part and I think I'll take it....I don't want to see what this "test of his character/mettle" will be.

BTW, the wife hid all the alcohol...pain meds and alcohol sure don't mix but it makes getting kicked in the junk feel a ton better. At least Texas went to McCain.

Well so much for bringing jobs back to the U.S. All the Large and Semi-Large companies will be bailing out so they won't be paying everybody else's taxes. Which just leaves the Smaller companies to float the bill. Hope your FLGS isn't the largest in town.

Lordhat wrote:Well so much for bringing jobs back to the U.S. All the Large and Semi-Large companies will be bailing out so they won't be paying everybody else's taxes. Which just leaves the Smaller companies to float the bill. Hope your FLGS isn't the largest in town.

Corporations aren't going to bail. Their taxes aren't going to go up significantly. At least not with respect to the developed world. You'll see a culling of small businesses run by people who are too stupid/selfish/paranoid to understand s-corps and incorporation, but that will be beneficial in the long run.

But yea, it feels like a giant weight has been lifted off my shoulders.

This thread shouldn't be a policy debate, we have many other threads about those disagreements. This is about recognition of a person succeeding in completing the most grueling job application in the US.

It isn't just about the a specific individual, but about the process of national election and the non-violent handing over of power. I heard a lot Republicans say this about Bush when bashed, so I hope that it holds both ways, that one should respect the office if not the man.

I also want to congratulate McCain for his hard work as well. In any election there will be a winner and a loser. He may have lost this election, but he is a good man who has done a lot for this country.

If you want to talk about Obama and Military, please start another thread. I would be curious to see what is said, but not here.

Ah yes, the "America is over!" chant has started. Happens every four years regardless of who wins. This country will survive with or without you.

Remarkable country we have here. I'm very proud of it.

Whatever hapens, it surely will not be business as usual. Let's hope this does not turn into a quick scuttle for position by the lobbyists. Hopefully Obama can get the damage of the last eight years cleaned up.

Ahtman wrote:This thread shouldn't be a policy debate, we have many other threads about those disagreements. This is about recognition of a person succeeding in completing the most grueling job application in the US.

It isn't just about the a specific individual, but about the process of national election and the non-violent handing over of power. I heard a lot Republicans say this about Bush when bashed, so I hope that it holds both ways, that one should respect the office if not the man.

I also want to congratulate McCain for his hard work as well. In any election there will be a winner and a loser. He may have lost this election, but he is a good man who has done a lot for this country.

If you want to talk about Obama and Military, please start another thread. I would be curious to see what is said, but not here.

Ok...Ahtman has a point...(the wife didn't hide the alcohol quick enough)...I will CONGRATULATE Obama on his historic election. He ran a great campaign and probably changed the face of Presidential politics in the US for the forseeable future.

There was something said tonight on Fox....Obama is the first true 21st Century Pres for the US. He is also a non-baby boomer...so I want to say America voted for who they wanted. I hope that half the things he promised can come true without that much of a downside.

OMGZOR!
THE NEW CODEX: DEMOCRATIC DEMOCRACY IS BROKEN!!!1!

Obama’s win is historic for all the obvious reasons, and it’s also a pretty good sign given the kind of campaign he ran. He built his campaign around building a ground campaign full of enthusiastic volunteers, he raised and debated policy, he campaigned based on new policies and proposed new directions. Whether or not you agree with his policies, you’ve gotta admit it was good to have one guy campaign on substance and not ‘that other guy is evil’, and win.

One other thing, I’ve been flogging fivethirtyeight here for a while, so I figure I might as well give them one last plug. They called each and every state correctly, with the possible exception of NC (which is still too close to call). They look like getting the margin right (as more CA votes are coming in the winning margin is probably going to drift out to 6%).

OMGZOR!
THE NEW CODEX: DEMOCRATIC DEMOCRACY IS BROKEN!!!1!

sigged.

And I'm happy about the outcome. I have no idea how it will turn out on a economic level, but imo, electing Obama as president was a big step for the U.S.

My perspective is British and I see parallels with Tony Blair's landslide in 1997.

The Tories had managed to make themselves extremely unpopular thanks to taking things too far, a string of corruption scandals, and so on. The Blair victory was to a great degree a protest vote against the Tories.

The Obama victory today is certainly strongly influenced by a sense that the Republicans messed up very badly over the past 8 years.

In the UK, the early hope of New Labour was gradually betrayed. Financial deregulation continued. The House of Lords reform was fudged. We got into unpopular and unsuccessful wars in the Middle East, and while the economy seemed to be booming it was a false boom that ended with the Credit Crunch.

I really hope that the Obama presidency does not fizzle out the same way. At least he is starting from a position of having fairly obvious problems to sort out. And Good Luck to him. What affects the USA affects the rest of the world too.

Good for you guys. The Lord of Change has finally taken over from the Blood God. Maybe he can remove Nurgle's Rot from the economy too.

It is a historic day for the USA. I am proud of that.

Now the Democrats have the power and can't hide behind anyone else. So its put up or shut up time. As many have learned, its alot harder to keep power (run the country) than win it.

I hope the comedians start spoofing Obama now or this is going to be a very quiet PC next four years.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Good for you guys. The Lord of Change has finally taken over from the Blood God. Maybe he can remove Nurgle's Rot from the economy too.

Nice. And I agree with Frazzled.

Frazzled wrote:Now the Democrats have the power and can't hide behind anyone else. So its put up or shut up time. As many have learned, its alot harder to keep power (run the country) than win it.

Full agreement here (and I voted for the guy). It's up to the Democrats to screw it up now, and I don't trust Congress at this point (not enough turnover, dammit!). I just hope he can make some of his big ideas work.

As for all of you who want to flee the country, for shame. If you don't like the way things are here, STAY and FIX them. Become politically active. Run for local office. Write op-ed pieces. Do however much you think you need to, but don't just run away. Love your country and do her proud.

How many votes did HypnoToad end up getting? I really think we need a recount....

As much as I am not a fan of either of the two major parties or any presidential candidate either of them have put forward in the last 5 elections, I do wish President-Elect Obama well in his position.

While there are many of Obama's policies that he has expressed that I do not agree with, I do not want him to end up being as much of a failure as a president as history seems to be showing that the current President has been.

To make an American football comparison, when my team, the Falcons, selected Matt Ryan as their new quarterback, I was afraid that he was the wrong choice, but I desperately hoped that I was wrong and Ryan would go on to be great for the team. I feel the same way about the Obama election.

Iorek wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Now the Democrats have the power and can't hide behind anyone else. So its put up or shut up time. As many have learned, its alot harder to keep power (run the country) than win it.

Full agreement here (and I voted for the guy). It's up to the Democrats to screw it up now, and I don't trust Congress at this point (not enough turnover, dammit!). I just hope he can make some of his big ideas work.

As for all of you who want to flee the country, for shame. If you don't like the way things are here, STAY and FIX them. Become politically active. Run for local office. Write op-ed pieces. Do however much you think you need to, but don't just run away. Love your country and do her proud.

Tell that to the Hollywood celebrity that stated four years ago that they would leave the country if Bush were re-elected. I believe it was one of the Sheen clan; I believe he's still here, at least.

Iorek wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Now the Democrats have the power and can't hide behind anyone else. So its put up or shut up time. As many have learned, its alot harder to keep power (run the country) than win it.

Full agreement here (and I voted for the guy). It's up to the Democrats to screw it up now, and I don't trust Congress at this point (not enough turnover, dammit!). I just hope he can make some of his big ideas work.

As for all of you who want to flee the country, for shame. If you don't like the way things are here, STAY and FIX them. Become politically active. Run for local office. Write op-ed pieces. Do however much you think you need to, but don't just run away. Love your country and do her proud.

Yeah, take a lesson from Ender's Game. Take over the world!

I hated when people said they'd leave the country in the last election.

Question: Where would fiscal conservatives go? Where would social conservatives go?

Kilkrazy wrote: The Obama victory today is certainly strongly influenced by a sense that the Republicans messed up very badly over the past 8 years.

Seems to be the only reason to me, but thats coming from a state thats 'da poor boy on the block' anyway. Not near the turmoil around here that the rest of the country has seen. Not yet anyway.

What I find entertaining is that when Clinton was president he had his one little thing with a cigar and ....you know... and there was talk for months about impeaching his perverted tail. On the other hand, everyone in the country is in an uproar about Pres. Bush running the country in the ground (he didn't start it, but didn't help either) and there has been nothing about running him out of office. Seems to me the 'Dim'ocrats only kept him around to help their chances in this election. The 'Pub'lican therefore lost big time.

Didn't vote for Obama (and I am a Dimocrat), but I do hope for the best for the country. I do not think things will get better with Democrats controlling EVERYTHING, which is typically not a good thing, but who knows. I do know that B.O. has a rough row to hoe in any case (that is if Pelosi actually lets him do anything). Guess we will have to wait 70 or so days to find out though.