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Just a quick question, can Lord of the Rings models be legally used in tournament play for 40k? The rules say that all citadel miniatures can be used, but I'm unsure if GW gets their LotR Models from citadel. Any help is appreciated (=

Quick question, quick answer - No.

Something to do with the Licensing. Note also the slightly smaller scale used for LOTR compared with 40K and Fantasy.

Mkay, thanks for your help

Flashman: this is incorrect, your information is a couple of years out of date now. LotR models ARE 100% legal for tournament play within the other 2 systems, and vice versa. They are also legal for use in GW stores in any games. My local GW had a converted Balrog with Dragon wings prominently on display in its front window for many months earlier this year.

The only remaining restriction based on the license is that if you win "Best Army" they cannot publish a photograph of converted LotR models in WD! New Line couldn't care less what you do with your models once you have bought them. But they do not want their own IP "co-mingled" with GW's as it could be in a photograph and particularly in a conversion.

It used to be the case originally that GW frowned on mixed conversions, but it was never part of the licence agreement, merely GW's attempt to prevent people using cheaper LotR models in WFB. This latter point has been confirmed by several different former employees I have spoken to.

I dont know about tournament play but one of our gamers uses a wringwraith as a changeling. it's a bit out of scal but a cool model!

Osbad wrote:Flashman: this is incorrect.

Apologies. When I last entered a 40K tournament, LOTR models and conversions weren't allowed, but then that was last year. If this has indeed changed, then by all means unleash those Riders of Rohan against Space Marines, Orks, Tau and the like

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According to the last ruleset I could find for a LotR event (the doubles tournament earlier this year) http://warhammerworld.typepad.com/warhammer_world_news/files/lotr_doubles_pack_2008.pdf

Using Models from Our Other Ranges
Please note that at this time, due to the nature of our licenses, The Lord of the
Rings Strategy Battle Game armies that feature models or model components
from our Warhammer or Warhammer 40,000 ranges cannot be nominated for
the Best Army Award. If any of the other awards are won using an army
containing models from our Warhammer or Warhammer 40,000 ranges, the
army unfortunately cannot be photographed or featured on the Web or in any
Games Workshop publication.

So that clearly permits fantasy and 40k models in LotR. Best check with the organiser thought to be sure ...

If it would be an independent tourney you should be able to use minis from any company, we do here in Oz.

The rig wraits are good for all sort of bad guy conversions and Migsula even used one for an inquisitor once...