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Well after a few friends and I were invited to a day of Apocolypse games we all became addicted to WH40K (again... some 12 years after our last games)

So we have all began building armies afresh and generally spending an obscene amount on our armies of choice.

In just over 3 months we have all created armies from scratch to point values of around 3000 and began weekly games at yours truly... Much to the bemusement of my missus to be.

So you can imagine that over this 3month period we have all read our codex's back to front and have had many confused moments as we have tried to decipher situational rules.

So I'd like to say hi to everyone and then politely ask for some rule clrification from those that have been doing this a lot longer than myself.

Please excuse any noobie questions... cos well i'm a newb!

1: Dreadnought close combat weapons (DCW).
When a dreadnought attacks in CC does it's strength modifier (Str x2 to a max of 10) confer to all attacks on the profile or only to to the number of DCW?

eg. A defiler with 2 extra DCW has 5 attacks on it's profile but only 4 DCW. When charging into an assualt while the defiler get 6 attacks at Str x2 or only 4?


2: Can certain pyschic powers be used twice in one round

Example: Can a Farseer cast doom twice per round as long as he has the power and spirit stones. I read that as long as it is not classed as a shooting attack the power may be cast twice. Is this correct?


3: Does a Chaos Lord's mark confer intself onto an attached squad?

Having a Choas Lord with the mark of Khorne obviously gives him +1 attack at a cheap price. Does attaching him to a squad of CSM's give them all the +1 attack bonus. This would effectively give them a mark at a cut rate cost.


4: Blast markers and cover saves

If a Battle Cannon is fired through a unit to one behind and doesn't scatter. Does the unit get a cover save? Due to it being fired through a unit. Or is cover defined from where the blast originates.

eg. Does the cover save come from the blasts origin (centre point) or is the cover save worked out from the battlecannons point of view. Also is this the same for all scatter blast markers i.e. plasma cannons.


5: Does Embolden allow pyschic tests to be re-rolled?

Like it says on the tin. Are pyschic tests seperate from a leadership test and are thus unaffected by the embolden ability or do they recieve a re-roll?


6: Infiltrate rule

If a unit has the infiltrate rule can it infiltrate when brought in from reserves or is this ability only allowed during deployment?


7: Does a Chaos spawn have a save

The CSM codex says "-" but I have read that daemon's recieve a 5+ invulnerable save.


(and finally)
8: Can a single unit launch a multiple assault on more than one unit.

Example: If two IC are relativley close together (i.e. 8") Can a unit of Orcs 30 strong assualt two IC's in the one assualt move? due to them coming in close contact to both of them? Effectively tying up more than one unit in the one assualt.

Thanks for your time folks!

DCW affects *All* attacks made until it is destroyed.

Each Psychic Power may only be used once per turn.

No. He is marked, the squad is not.

Not sure.

Not sure.

I think they can outflank if held in reserves, but otherwise they have to come on from your table edge.

No. Chaos Spawn is not a Daemon. It's a Spawn.

I'm not sure. You can in Fantasy, but it's rare that it happens. Also, if you fired weapons in the shooting phase, you must charge the same target if assaulting that turn.

1. all attacks

2. Yes, but not one's that are shooting attacks

3. No, ICs cannot confer their special abilities onto the unit they join, unless specified in the rule itself.

4. yes, the only time a blast (or ordinance) does not yield a cover save is if it is in the rule or it is a barrage weapon and the target is not 'in' some sort of terrain, being behind it to a barrage weapon does not help.

5. Don't know, don't have the codex, someone else help here please.

6. You can either infiltrate during deployment or be held in reserve and perform an outflank rule as per page 94 in BGB.

7. no, they are daemons, but not from the daemon codex. (I have only looked at the Chaos Dex, and this is from memory, please correct me if I'm wrong, but this one did stick out to me as a what the heck thing.)

8. Yes, as long as you don't break unit coherency (2" between models).

I hope this helps, and good gaming!

Thanks for the quick replies... I was expecting to have to wait at least a day


To clarify No:5

If a defiler fires it's battle cannon at unit (A) that is in the open it wouldn't recieve a cover save.

If another unit (B) was between the defiler and Unit (A) would Unit (A) recieve a cover save?

If the shot scattered wildly into a mass of tanks and units how would cover save be calculated?

By drawing line of sight to the Defiler or radial from the centre of the blast marker.

Again thanks for clearing up a few of those.

Embolden allows leadership tests to be re-rolled and psychic tests are indeed a leadership test.

The Defiler fires its ordnance directly (its not a barrage weapon) so cover saves are worked out just like any other shooting weapon. The position of the blast makes absolutely no difference (only if it was a barrage weapon would it).

cover for blast weapons are determined from the shooting model/unit to the target unit(s)

Cover for barrage weapons, are determined from the center of the blast.

thanks folks... that will aid us in this weeks set of games.