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 jasper76 wrote:
I think his desire to improve our practices in this area is appropriate to the modern threats our nation is facing from terrorism and the spread of anti-American ideology.

Did you wrote too many words? Because if I remove all the ones that shouldn't be there, I find “I think his practices in this area is appropriate to the spread of anti-American ideology.”, and this makes perfect sense!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
I think his desire to improve our practices in this area is appropriate to the modern threats our nation is facing from terrorism and the spread of anti-American ideology.

Did you wrote too many words? Because if I remove all the ones that shouldn't be there, I find “I think his practices in this area is appropriate to the spread of anti-American ideology.”, and this makes perfect sense!

Please refrain from rewording my posts. It's obnoxious and disingenuous. Thanks in advance!

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:


on the subject. FWIW the two Swedish Police officers featured in the "documentary" (again, using that word in a completely erroneous manner) think that Horowitz is "a madman".

TBF there's every chance that Fox might have truly sensational stories about immigrants raping Swedes



Still reassuring to know that the current POTUS is too fething dumb to be able to watch TV and correctly reference that the next day.

 jasper76 wrote:
I think his desire to improve our practices in this area is appropriate to the modern threats our nation is facing from terrorism and the spread of anti-American ideology.

I read this and was reminded of a picture that's been making its way across the tweeters for a while, dating from 1949.

 Compel wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
I think his desire to improve our practices in this area is appropriate to the modern threats our nation is facing from terrorism and the spread of anti-American ideology.

I read this and was reminded of a picture that's been making its way across the tweeters for a while, dating from 1949.

Spoiler:

Why would a person with anti-American ideology want to immigrate here, and why would an anti-American terrorist announce themselves when they try to sneak in?

Donal Trump's conception of protecting America is to swing a sledgehammer (extreme sledgehammer?) when we need a scalpel.

 LordofHats wrote:
Why would a person with anti-American ideology want to immigrate here, and why would an anti-American terrorist announce themselves when they try to sneak in?

Donal Trump's conception of protecting America is to swing a sledgehammer (extreme sledgehammer?) when we need a scalpel.

As for the first question, I can imagine someone with an anti-American ideology coming here for the pure economic opportunity. For the second question, I only think a terrorist would announce themselves as such if they were very foolish.

I don not disagree with your concluding statement.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Prestor Jon wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
For what it's worth, anyone who voted for a Republican on the basis of "Repeal Obamacare" and doesn't know that they're getting their current insurance only because of the Affordable Care Act(read: "Obamacare") should have their voting rights stripped from them.

In other words, if you don't vote how I want you to, I'm willing to strip you of your rights as a US citizen.

In other words, if you are an uninformed voter who made literally zero attempt to inform yourself, you lose your right to vote.

You don't have to be an "informed" voter to have the right to vote. Your voting rights aren't grounded in any definition of being informed of anything at all. Advocating for the government to strip voting rights from people for not voting in a manner you deem appropriate is an oppressive intrusion on others that is a societal injustice. The only times you should lose your right to vote is if you renounce your US citizenship and you should temporarily lose it for the length of your incarceration if you're found guilty of a crime that results in a prison sentence. Other than that everyone should remain free to vote for whomever they want for whatever reason they wish.

Why are you oppressing incarcerated people's right to vote? It's not much of a democracy if the state can decide you don't get to vote anymore, is it?

The state isn't arbitrarily removing anyone's right to vote, especially not on frivolous and subjective grounds like how "informed" you are. If you commit a crime against the state then you can be charged by the state. Once charged you are entitled to your due process rights and the state must give you a fair hearing in court. If your court case is not adjudicated in your favor and your are convicted and sentenced to a term in prison then during your confinement you lose a host of rights including your right to vote. Typically all or most of those rights are restored after you complete your sentence, often with the condition of completing a term of parole. A society cannot exist if it is not allowed to protect itself from those that would harm it and it cannot successfully protect itself if it is not allowed to impose negative consequences on those who harm it.

Trumpo picks H.R. McMaster for NSA position:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/20/us/politics/mcmaster-national-security-adviser-trump.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

...wow... that's a 'Mattis' like pick there.

Good Trumpo <pats him on the head>

Prestor Jon wrote:
A society cannot exist if it is not allowed to protect itself from those that would harm it and it cannot successfully protect itself if it is not allowed to impose negative consequences on those who harm it.

I posit that voting for someone as obviously against America's interests as the current administration is "harming America", and society is obligated to protect itself.

How one would go about protecting against, essentially, dumbfeth voters is difficult, though. I don't think stripping voting rights is a good idea.

Such has always been the risks of democracy, and often its downfall. There's no real good answer though that anyone has arrived at.

 Vaktathi wrote:
Such has always been the risks of democracy, and often its downfall. There's no real good answer though that anyone has arrived at.

Elect Hats president for life.

I promise a Sombrero for every American, taco trucks on every street corner, and free ammo and abortions at every school!

I just figure the last two will cancel each other out and everyone will vote for me anyway because who doesn't want a free Sombrero and an abundance of tacos? No one right? RIGHT?

 feeder wrote:

Prestor Jon wrote:
A society cannot exist if it is not allowed to protect itself from those that would harm it and it cannot successfully protect itself if it is not allowed to impose negative consequences on those who harm it.

I posit that voting for someone as obviously against America's interests as the current administration is "harming America", and society is obligated to protect itself.

How one would go about protecting against, essentially, dumbfeth voters is difficult, though. I don't think stripping voting rights is a good idea.

Simply vote for the opposing party to be the 'stick in the mud'.

Hold your current congressional critter's feet to the fire.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
Such has always been the risks of democracy, and often its downfall. There's no real good answer though that anyone has arrived at.

Elect Hats president for life.

I promise a Sombrero for every American, taco trucks on every street corner, and free ammo and abortions at every school!

I just figure the last two will cancel each other out and everyone will vote for me anyway because who doesn't want a free Sombrero and an abundance of tacos? No one right? RIGHT?

You would have my vote unquestionably.

Finally, a platform I can get behind.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
Such has always been the risks of democracy, and often its downfall. There's no real good answer though that anyone has arrived at.

Elect Hats president for life.

I promise a Sombrero for every American, taco trucks on every street corner, and free ammo and abortions at every school!

I just figure the last two will cancel each other out and everyone will vote for me anyway because who doesn't want a free Sombrero and an abundance of tacos? No one right? RIGHT?

Give me an option to substitute the sombrero for an enormous furry bearskin hat with ear flaps and you've got my axe vote.

So...it appears that CPAC has disinvited Milo Yiannopoulos in light of ‘disturbing comments’.

Topkek.

Its not like his comments and stances havent been public knowledge for some time...

 feeder wrote:

Give me an option to substitute the sombrero for an enormous furry bearskin hat with ear flaps and you've got my axe vote.

I promise you sombreros and tacos and you want a bearskin?!

Screw it. I'm going home.



Ya'll can just work this out yourselves

So, we are just going to give Sweden a "pass" on this whole IKEA thing then? great cinnamon buns and meatballs does not make up for insanely too many piece furniture and a confusing store layout, they have a lot to answer for!

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...it appears that CPAC has disinvited Milo Yiannopoulos in light of ‘disturbing comments’.

Topkek.

Its not like his comments and stances havent been public knowledge for some time...

Its probably the video that surfaced of him defending pedophilia.

 LordofHats wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Give me an option to substitute the sombrero for an enormous furry bearskin hat with ear flaps and you've got my axe vote.

I promise you sombreros and tacos and you want a bearskin?!

Screw it. I'm going home.



Ya'll can just work this out yourselves

Have you been to Canada? I need a sombrero like a Mexican needs an enormous furry bearskin hat with ear flaps.

I though you were Lordof(all)Hats. Not LordofStrawhatsandstrawhatderivatives.

Am I wrong?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...it appears that CPAC has disinvited Milo Yiannopoulos in light of ‘disturbing comments’.

Topkek.

Its not like his comments and stances havent been public knowledge for some time...

Its probably the video that surfaced of him defending pedophilia.

It really does seem like he is in a contest with the world to see how offensive he can be before someone says "feth no" so that he can then complain about it.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...it appears that CPAC has disinvited Milo Yiannopoulos in light of ‘disturbing comments’.

Topkek.

Its not like his comments and stances havent been public knowledge for some time...

Its probably the video that surfaced of him defending pedophilia.

It is. Good for CPAC.

At least the CPAC crews didn't trash the place or started any fires in protest.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...it appears that CPAC has disinvited Milo Yiannopoulos in light of ‘disturbing comments’.

Topkek.

Its not like his comments and stances havent been public knowledge for some time...

Its probably the video that surfaced of him defending pedophilia.

It's good to see that everybody draws a line somewhere.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...it appears that CPAC has disinvited Milo Yiannopoulos in light of ‘disturbing comments’.

Topkek.

Its not like his comments and stances havent been public knowledge for some time...

Its probably the video that surfaced of him defending pedophilia.

It really does seem like he is in a contest with the world to see how offensive he can be before someone says "feth no" so that he can then complain about it.

I mean, that's pretty much how he makes his money.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...it appears that CPAC has disinvited Milo Yiannopoulos in light of ‘disturbing comments’.

Topkek.

Its not like his comments and stances havent been public knowledge for some time...

Its probably the video that surfaced of him defending pedophilia.

It really does seem like he is in a contest with the world to see how offensive he can be before someone says "feth no" so that he can then complain about it.

Pretty much... he's trying to be the next Howard Stern... and even Stern is like 'dude... chillax a bit?'.

The unfortunate thing here, is that this plays right into his notoriety... he's got a book to sell yo!

 feeder wrote:


Am I wrong?

You dare question ME?!

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...it appears that CPAC has disinvited Milo Yiannopoulos in light of ‘disturbing comments’.

Topkek.

Its not like his comments and stances havent been public knowledge for some time...

Its probably the video that surfaced of him defending pedophilia.

whats amusing is that its not a recent or private thing, that was broadcast with Joe Rogan made some time ago for public distribution

While amusing and less nonsensical than Trump's political platform I'm not entirely sure this is on topic...

 LordofHats wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
Such has always been the risks of democracy, and often its downfall. There's no real good answer though that anyone has arrived at.

Elect Hats president for life.

I promise a Sombrero for every American, taco trucks on every street corner, and free ammo and abortions at every school!

I just figure the last two will cancel each other out and everyone will vote for me anyway because who doesn't want a free Sombrero and an abundance of tacos? No one right? RIGHT?

Put it in a youtube video like Joe Exotic, and I will follow your campaign as long as the free tacos last, sir.

 jasper76 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
This is why democracy is the worst system of government that has been tried except for all the others, which were worse.

I suppose the answer is that everyone has to try to inform the uninformed voters, and hopefully they might open their minds to new information.

Yep. People should try and persuade each other that their cause is correct in the free market of ideas.

That can't happen when one side is convinced that someone is a "Secret Muslim!1!!".

I suppose that means that the other side has not done an adequate job of convincing their detractors that they're wrong?? To be fair, I don't think that "Obama is a secret Muslim" thing is a widespread belief. I live in redneck country, deep Trump territory, and the only place I've ever heard this is from wackaloons on TV.

Funny, I've heard from many of my wife's family here in New York.