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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/07 23:01:40
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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I watched Day of the dead over the last 2 nights and it was, yet again for a George Romero film, absolutely woeful.
The only one of his films so far that even comes close to being decent is Dawn of the Dead, and even that decends into stupidity near the end.
They are constantly characterised by OTT zombies, who for some reason maintain some form of recognition/intelligence, slowed characters who insist on hissy fits so they can charge off on their own and invariably get killed, a 'bad guy' locked in with the survivors.
Please, please let him no be associated with WWZ in any way shape or form, and please don't make it a 'tribute' to him....
Day of the Dead: 1 star because it ended.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/07 23:19:15
Subject: Re:Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Night of the Living Dead was worth the watch.
The rest were crap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/07 23:22:17
Subject: Re:Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Freaky Flayed One
possibly somewhere on a planet in a bowl somewhere (london)
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my friend is OBSESSED with George a Romero. he got the box set and even the t-shirt! personally, i dont get zombie films much. resident evil games on the other hand...
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i spent ages on my avitar. YOU MUST LIKE IT OR HE WILL EAT YOU!
thats just the way the cookie crumbles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/07 23:24:22
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Dominating Dominatrix
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The only "...of the dead " movie I ever saw was Shaun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/07 23:31:02
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Sslimey Sslyth
Busy somewhere, airin' out the skin jobs.
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I hope you all die in a zombie Apocolypse.
NotLD=****
DwnotD=*****
DotD=***
LotD=**
DiaryotD=***
Remake DwnotD=***
Remake DotD=a$$
RotLD=***
RotLD2=***
Other RotLD=Granted, they suck
Classic zombie movies are the shizznit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/07 23:47:50
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Day of the Dead ran out of money which is why the second half of the film drags so much.
Land of the Dead was mediocre. Haven't seen Diary or the upcoming Island, although reports of the latter is it is even worse than Diary.
Zombie movies are pretty much played out. You may want to check out The Crazies. Not a great film, but an entertaining one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 00:10:18
Subject: Re:Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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I actually love Night/Day/Dawn of the Dead. The remakes all do zombie movies justice and I think your just not thinking in a mindset of the times the films were released. Land/Diary of the Dead however were really bad. I watched them both but they were bad. They exchange actual hard work for the special effects with terrible digital blood spray and it just doesn't fit, you can tell it's obviously digital.
Zombie films in the 'modern' era are defined by the Dawn of the Dead remake and 28 Days Later. Both are great films, very terrifying. 28 Weeks Later is little slow and the action isn't as terrifying, except for the opening scene of course. There are tons of, what I like to call, third party zombie films now though. But they are mostly misses. They do something odd to the zombie formula destroying it's entertainment value by completely breaking the suspension of disbelief needed. Zombie movies need to be more like the Dawn of the Dead remake to really do well in the box office, action, fear, despair. It really works.
I still have my fingers crossed that a series of movies based off of The Walking Dead series will eventually be picked up and made into a series of movies. That is an incredible zombie story. The characters are deep, real, and behave like actual human beings. There is no zombie formula to it either. It keeps morphing and changing just like how a group of people would have to do as the zombie apocalypse began.
But overall abandon hope all ye who pick up any of the newer Romero films.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 00:12:53
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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I'm 110% with you Gonads. After seeing Diary of the Dead I realized that besides Night there isn't a Romero film I actually enjoy - and in Night's case it's the classic aura that keeps it from my poop list, that and the ending.
Dawn remake is still my favorite zed movie, followed by Shaun, then 28 Days, then probably Quarantine. Have yet to see [REC] or many of the Italian zombi films though.
Agree with Dal'yth on the genre dying (  ) out, but there's still good places to go. WWZ could still be excellent, Dead Snow I pray gets wide release, and I can always always hold out that Worst Case Scenario will get made.
- Salvage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 00:56:41
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Boss_Salvage wrote:I'm 110% with you Gonads. After seeing Diary of the Dead I realized that besides Night there isn't a Romero film I actually enjoy - and in Night's case it's the classic aura that keeps it from my poop list, that and the ending.
Dawn remake is still my favorite zed movie, followed by Shaun, then 28 Days, then probably Quarantine. Have yet to see [REC] or many of the Italian zombi films though.
Agree with Dal'yth on the genre dying (  ) out, but there's still good places to go. WWZ could still be excellent, Dead Snow I pray gets wide release, and I can always always hold out that Worst Case Scenario will get made.
- Salvage
I don't think zombie movie are a big enough thing to be their own genre, more like a subset of horror. I also doubt they’re dying out, they’re a cult kind of movie that were very fashionable for a little while there and can now expect to return to their old cult status.
As for the Romero zombie movies, I like them but I won’t pretend for a second that they’re any good. The guy is ultimately a b-movie director with some fun ideas. I mean, Land of the Dead is pretty silly on the face of it but the moral at the end is that we need to eat the rich. That’s fun enough to make me look past the movie’s failings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 00:59:31
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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I love Romero movies,Night of the living dead was one of the most ground breaking horror films ever,it literally kicked doors open for the genre,and,while not as good,both Dawn & Day are both great story driven movies.
I will concede that Land of the Dead was'nt so great,but still,if we are to belive Romeros "world" ,the IDEA was good.
As for Diary of the Dead,I found it a fun movie,that given Americas Technocompthingamabob addiction I found belivable (in so much as a "dead people walking" can be belived).
Say what you will,but I find the world much more entertaining with George A Romero cranking out his gory goodness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 01:07:23
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.
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Deadshane1 wrote:I hope you all die in a zombie Apocolypse.
The only thing better than Romero is Rodriguez.
Are you a Mexi-CAN? Or a Mexi-CANT?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 02:05:02
Subject: Re:Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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My favorite movie about the walking dead is by Peter Jackson, but I can't remember the title. maybe it's Dead Alive. It has a scene where a guy wails on the zombies with a lawnmower and the monster at the end is essentially a Great Unclean One. It's low-budget and has lots of really tongue-in-cheek humor, which is what I think makes a good zombie movie. The worst are the pieces of crap that pop up on the sci-fi channel once in awhile. (Return of the Living Dead 2-whatever, House of the Dead.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 02:38:34
Subject: Re:Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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warpcrafter wrote:My favorite movie about the walking dead is by Peter Jackson, but I can't remember the title. maybe it's Dead Alive. It has a scene where a guy wails on the zombies with a lawnmower and the monster at the end is essentially a Great Unclean One. It's low-budget and has lots of really tongue-in-cheek humor, which is what I think makes a good zombie movie. The worst are the pieces of crap that pop up on the sci-fi channel once in awhile. (Return of the Living Dead 2-whatever, House of the Dead.)
Yup it's Dead Alive,that movie is funny as all hell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 02:51:40
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Dead Alive is so over the top, its awesome. I've given up on the movies, and now stick to games and books. Left 4 Dead is a must have for any zombie movie fan, by the way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 09:00:43
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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George Romero is acknowledged as the founding father of the zombie movie. Along with that Italian director whose name I can't recall and am too lazy to look up in Wikipedia.
All zombie movies are either tributes to, or reactions against, or reinterpretations of the conventions established by those two guys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 10:10:01
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Kilkrazy wrote:George Romero is acknowledged as the founding father of the zombie movie. Along with that Italian director whose name I can't recall and am too lazy to look up in Wikipedia.
All zombie movies are either tributes to, or reactions against, or reinterpretations of the conventions established by those two guys.
Lucio Fulci.
Haven't seen any of his movies, but i've seen a  load of clips in gore montages on Youtube
But yeah that's true, of zombie movies being tribute too them, as there's not much formula to zombie movies except for survival. Although 28 Days Later was VERY interesting.
LOL another one is Australia's independent Undead, which involves aliens too, it sounds bad, and is bad, but it's watchable, and funny as
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 10:45:19
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Dominating Dominatrix
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I just never got around to watch any of the ...of the Dead movies. I saw the two 28 movies, which I both enjoyed and I'm currently reading WWZ which is all kinds of awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 11:34:43
Subject: Re:Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Yeah, i've only seen the remake Dawn, Land, both 28's and all the Resident Evils (i think that's it  ) when it comes to zombie movies, although it's a  mission to find all the old ones.
The remake was really good for me, as most remakes i've seen (Halloween was ok to start with, but i grew to despise it. Interesting, but i hate Rob's style of turning everyone into poor, very dodgy, Texan's that swear every second word)
Night of the Living Dead is fully on Youtube, but who watches movies on a computer anyway?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 13:26:59
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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28 days later really, really showed how lame Romero's scripts, characters and to be blunt, zombies are.
It buzzed from the get go.
You actually want the characters to survive and or die according to how you feel about them, not because the script calls for them to be a hero or loser. Not everyone you think will survive does.
None of the usual stupid build up of music then a zombie jumps out to try and generate a scare.
And as I saw in the Day of the dead remake.... no flying squirrel zombies.
Although 28 weeks later, sadly had to have a helicopter decapitating zombies.... even Romero wouldn't be lame enough to do that.
Sure he was the guy who kickstarted the 'franchise' of zombie movies but they were b to c grade when the originals were released and the remakes are often worse because to be honest, you get the sense that they are just trying too hard to make lameness look good.
Just stop making movies and stop remaking his old ones.
Diary of the dead was so lame it never even opened here in the cinemas in Australia.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 13:28:51
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Watched Shaun of the dead tonight (saw it at the moves when it first came out as well).
Fantastic because it really poked fun at the genre.
And the zombies beat you through numbers and initial surprise. Not super zombies which have become all the rage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 13:46:21
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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One thing to remember is Romero is pretty much an independent movie maker. He doesn't have the resources that Zack Snyder did. For the most part zombie movies are done by independent or small budgeted genre imprints. Looking at their quality it isn't much of a surprise why. I love original ideas as much as anybody, but execution does count.
I'd love to see Worst Case Scenario made as well, but Nazi zombies also appear in Dead Snow and Franco's Oasis of the Zombies. I'm probably forgetting a few others.
The best thing about zombies from a creative PoV is zombies are a blank slate. You can project anything onto them. They could stand in for victims as well as monsters. The allegory could be nearly anything. When Chilean and Brazilian film makers are making zombie films, you know anyone can make them.
I'm suffering zombie movie fatigue. Good ideas or new twists aren't the problem, the problem is a lack of a good story that makes me suspend my disbelief. What I'd like to see is a zombie movie that is analogous to what Let the Right One In is to vampire movies. A story first, and a monster movie a distant second.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 14:14:14
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
I don't even KNOW anymore.
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Although 28 weeks later, sadly had to have a helicopter decapitating zombies.... even Romero wouldn't be lame enough to do that.
Eh? There's a zombie getting his head smacked off by helicopter blades during the refueling scene in the original Dawn. Granted, it's only one and completely unintentional...
And yeah, save the original NotLD, Romero's preaching and plodding direction style really wears thin quickly.
Dal'yth Dude wrote:I'd love to see Worst Case Scenario made as well, but Nazi zombies also appear in Dead Snow and Franco's Oasis of the Zombies. I'm probably forgetting a few others.
Oo! Oooo! Don't forget Zombie Lake!
On second thought, yeah, forget about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 15:15:42
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Philsonator: Please, please please for the love of the sweet baby Jesus change that avatar. Please?
Wow. That's impressively disgusting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/08 22:46:44
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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I'm a big fan of return of the living dead. It started the whole brains thing, And it's zombies didn't drop from head shots. Also zombies digging up from the grave is so cooler than a Crack-head running around going "gwaaaarah".
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And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/09 01:16:38
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Brains!
LOL the Tar Man
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/09 01:35:41
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Night of the Living dead is one of the best films ever made. From there, Romero's movies have slowly progressed into total crap.
Dawn of the Dead was okay. The only thing that really bothered me was the absolutely terrible makeup. I mean, the makeup in that movie could be done by a three-year-old with some fingerpaints. If you're going to paint someone's face green, you could at least include the eyelids and lips, you lazy bastards.
Day of the Dead is where the series really started sliding, when Romero started to question whether or not his zombies have intelligence. It was basically a set up for the blasphemy that was Land of the Dead.
Land of the Dead was just unforgivable. I can't even stand it. I walked out of the theater, and I never do that with anything, no matter how bad.
Diary of the Dead? I don't know, I haven't seen it. I don't know if I want to see it. In fact, I probably never will.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/09 02:44:25
Subject: Why do I keep watching Romero films?
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Diary of the dead is the only zombie movie, that was so preachy and so bad I hated it. And i collect zombie movies. I have 113 of them. Check out Zombie2 and 3 for a good time. And you must watch the Zombie vs shark fight on youtube.
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