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2009/01/14 19:35:45
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Im new to 40k, have been playing for only 2 months. I have been putting together a little force. This is what I got so far:
Chapter Master (for orbital bombardment)
-Relic Blade
-Artificer Armour
-combi-plasma
Chaplain
-Jump pack
Troops:
2 Tactical Marine squads (2 Rhinos)
-Missile Launchers & Flamers
Scout Squad (5 models), used to teleport terminators
-heavy bolter and shotguns
-Teleport homer
Elites:
Terminators (5 models)
Dreadnought
-Multi-Melta
Fast Attack
Assault Marines(5 models) (used with chaplain)
-Seargent with powerfist and storm shield
Total: 1250
Scouts (5 models) with sniper rifles
Lascannon Predator
That leaves enough points for either a Land Raider or 2 Vindicators (Of course im open to any other ideas). Anyone have suggestion for my list 
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/01/16 21:51:14
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2009/01/14 20:07:20
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Dakka Veteran
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devastators are always good, and then just add a predator 
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2500 pts  | 1500 pts  | 1000 pts  | 1000 pts 
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2009/01/15 00:46:09
Subject: Re:1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Fresh-Faced New User
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How about a squad of devastators, 2 lascannons and 2 plasma cannon with a razorback? 250 doesn't seem to buy a reasonable devastator squad and a predator. Thx for the suggestion though  .
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2009/01/15 19:20:57
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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I have a similar list but i dont bother with the chapter master Orbital strikes never seem accurate enough. I run 2 squads of scouts and one Tac as my troops in my 1500 point list
Termies need and assult cannon Though (or cyclone for anti-tank)
And add some sniper scouts (snipers have saved my bottom more than a few times).
I also run a TL assult cannon razorback.
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2009/01/15 19:55:50
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
Whitebear lake Minnesota.
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i wouldnt put lascannons in a dev squad there way over priced. i would go with the 2 vindicators.
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2009/01/15 20:43:09
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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i would do a vindicator and a lascannon predator
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2009/01/15 21:51:31
Subject: Re:1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Taking out the Orbital Bombardment and combi-plasma would free up enough points for a cyclone launcher.
I like the idea of a Lascannon Predator and a sniper squad.
Changes to the list:
HQ Chapter Captain
-Relic Blade
-Artificer Armour
Sniper Squad with camo cloaks
And a Lascannon Predator. 
Thx for the advice and let me know what you think.
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2009/01/16 00:23:45
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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I would go with 2 Vindicators, but as I've said elsewhere, I run 3 of them Strength 10, AP2, large blast... there is no other weapon in the game that good IMO.
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2009/01/16 03:51:33
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I would think about more troops before Heavy Support. I like to have at least 4 Troops slots occupied at 1500+ points. (Note I say SLOTS and not units. With that min. size scout squad, another 10 man tac squad would net you up to 7 scoring units if you combat squad them.) Everything else in your list is very nice, but it's your troops selections that will win you games.
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2009/01/16 04:59:26
Subject: Re:1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Another tactical squad would be beneficial, as they are usually the ones keeping me alive. But that would cost me another 205 points (including rhino), leaving me still with a lack of fire power (unless anyone has an idea for the rest of my list). I'm also wondering why there is no support for the Land Raider Is it just a waste of points?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/01/16 05:00:12
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2009/01/16 05:44:09
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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In general one LR is a good way to lose 250 in the first couple of turns. Common wisdom is to take 2 at minimum to force your opponent to either split his fire between them, or concentrate on one while the other does whatever it is you want it to do.
Personally I've always felt the same about Terminators: 2 Squads or none. YMMV.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2009/01/16 21:55:59
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hmm, it seems the scouts and predator are still the best choice. It would still give me another scoring unit like Lordhat suggested. Plus the extra lascannons .
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2009/01/16 22:00:05
Subject: 1500 pts Ultramarines, need advice on heavy support
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Fixture of Dakka
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I think the days of static shooty armies is over. While I loved my Devs I wouldn't use them anymore. The problem with predators is that they do not have any defensive weapons to speak of. I would use points for HS elsewhere in the army.
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