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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/03 21:35:56
Subject: 3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Squishy Squig
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If you had 75 more points to spend on an Ork army list...what would you do with the points.
I was thinking of 3 vanilla Nobz at 60 points with a 15 point Whaaaag Banner =75
They would ride in my Battlewagon covered by a KFF....OR....they would be on foot with my Warboss attached with a PK for a unit of 4 models all with +1 WS.
Here is the rest of my current "Planned" list so you can see what I am already taking and where I might be weak. The Nobz unit would count as Troops since I have a Warboss. As you can see I have lots of units that have Vehicle armor values or T5 models.
HQ:
1. Warboss (Cybork Body, Power Klaw) 95
2. Big Mek (KFF, Burna, Eavy Armor) 110
Elite:
1. 4 Nob Bikers +1 Painboy biker (1 nob has a PK) 280
2. Lootas (11 models) 8 Lootas + 3 Mekboys (Big Shootas) 165
3. Burna Boys (10 models) 7 Burna's + 3 Mekboys (Rokkit Launchas) 150
Troops:
1. Deff Dread (Big Shoota, Scorcha) 85
2. Slugga Boyz (15 models) 13 regular boyz, 1 Nob PK, 1 boy Big Shoota 130
3. Shoota Boyz (15 models) 13 regular boys, 1 Nob PK, 1 boy Big Shoota) 130
Fast:
1. Deff Kopter (twin linked Rocket Launcha, Bigbomm) 60
2. Deff Kopter (twin linked Rocket Launcha, Bigbomm) 60
3. Deff Kopter (twin linked Rocket Launcha, Bigbomm) 60
Heavy
1. 2 Killa Kans (2 Skorcha’s) 80
2. Looted Wagon (Boomgun, Ard Case) 115
3. Battlewagon (Kannon, 2 Rokkit Launchas, 2 Big Shoota's, Ard Case, Armor plates) 155
1675
1750
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/03 21:47:23
Subject: Re:3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Tough Treekin
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10 more boyz, Nob, Bosspole.
Your a little light on scoring units for an Ork army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/03 22:05:19
Subject: 3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Yep.
More boyz.
Done.
Next question?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/03 23:03:44
Subject: 3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
Lafayette, IN
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If it were me, I would do the following:
Free points +75
drop the deff dredd +85
drop the looted wagon +115
Eavy armor for the boss -5
Lootas would be 11 lootas, no fluff. Add 3 more lootas -45
make the slugga boyz shoota boys, bump both squads to 30 with 3 big shootas each -200
add a big choppa to one nob biker, a waaagh! banner to one, and a bosspole -25
That more than doubles your boy count, makes the lootas go from scary to beast, and optimizes you nob bikers for wound allocation so they can take 5 wounds before you lose a model.
It eliminates a tank that might do bad things and a deff dredd that will never get to combat.
Take it for a grain of salt, but that is where I would look.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/02/03 23:04:50
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/03 23:05:21
Subject: 3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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drop the dread or kanz (or both), bulk up the boyz units, looted wagon is pretty much junk, they tend to die early, so drop that for yet more boyz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/04 03:10:53
Subject: 3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Flashy Flashgitz
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List sucks tho. I'd work on sorting that mess first. For example:
- Too few bikers: lots or none.
- Mekboyz on Loota squad: wtf
- Mekboyz on Burna squad: wtf
- Big Shoota on a BS2 Dread
- Not enough boyz in a foot squad: 20 or 30
- Not enough troops
- Skorchas on a BS3 Killa Kan: use those on the dread.
- Looted wagon, ugh
- Overkitted battlewagon: can't assault out of a non opened transport, can only fire 1 weapon on the move, none when moving 12''.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/04 06:11:20
Subject: 3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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More troops atlest 3x20 and some gretchin you need those scoring units. Dreads work best with 4xDCCW, Its a matter of kill or be killed then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/13 02:49:53
Subject: Re:3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Squishy Squig
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Thanks, for the comments people...I appreciate it and have taken to heart.
So more Nobz is not the way to go. It seems that the consensus is also that a looted wagon is a waste of points. So sad though...I have a converted Leman Russ model from 3rd Ed. Not using it is a tough call. I do understand that an 11 Armor really sucks...
I disagree on the MEK’s I have placed into my Loota’s and Burna’s. I get the concern…but the three Meks in each unit maximize fire power in both squads.
While the people who disagree with the wasted STR7 AP4 Deffguns…I see the three Meks as a guaranteed 9 shots per turn at 36”. I maximize the unit in my opinion and it will stay that way. If I take all 11 Deffguns and I roll a 1 for the number of shots…then I roll 11 dice with maybe 4-5 hits. By adding the Big Shootas for free, if I roll a 1 for the Deffguns then I still roll 17 shots each turn minimum 8+9. That’s about 7-8 hits per turn average…AND if I have to retreat for any reason OR move due to an opponents flank maneuver I still shoot 9 shots on the move…MAXIMUM ABILITY each turn out of the unit and I take away my opponents options.
On the Burna unit with Rockit Launchas. By adding these, I convert a unit that my opponent can ignore for 3 turns and that has to get into the face of an enemy to be effective into a unit that can punch from a distance as it closes ground. In addition, I give the unit and army some sorely needed Vehicle armor punching capability. So now, not only does my opponent have to consider the danger of the unit getting close but now he has to also be concerned about vehicle facing and turning rear armor values to the unit. Lastly it also helps vs. T6+ units. I maximize the unit for all variables.
I built the army for two different battle styles. The army can use a Turtle up strategy with all its template and blast weapons or it can also go out and take the fight to the enemy to take ground. This is all my opinion of course.
The over tooled up Battlewagon is only ever going to be used as a bunker. Once it is deployed I don’t “plan” on moving it. It’s designed as a tool to deny ground and to chew up units as they close ground. I will avoid, at all costs, turning any other armor value to my opponent other than a 14 front.
Okay so I modified a few things...hope this makes more sense. I am still working on the Deff Dread and Kans. I am leaning toward Grot Zookas and 4 DCCW for the Dread. I just need to get a hold of the conversion parts to get it done.
HEAD QUARTERS:
1. Warboss (Cybork Body, Power Klaw) 95
2. Big Mek (KFF, Burna, Eavy Armor) 110
ELITE:
1. Lootas (11 models) 8 Lootas + 3 Mekboys (Big Shootas) 165
2. Burna Boys (10 models) 7 Burna's + 3 Mekboys (Rokkit Launchas) 165
TROOPS:
1. 4 Nobz +1 Painboy (Waaaagh Banner, 3X ea'vy Armor, Bosspole, Big Choppa, Power Klaw, Shoota/Skorcha) 200
2. Deff Dread (Big Shoota, Scorcha) 85
3. 15 Slugga Boyz (13 regular boyz, 1 Nob PK, 1 boy Big Shoota) 130
4. 15 Slugga Boyz (13 regular boyz, 1 Nob PK, 1 boy Big Shoota) 130
5. 15 Shoota Boys (13 regular boys, 1 Nob PK, 1 boy Big Shoota) 130
FAST:
1. Deff Kopter (twin linked Rocket Launcha, Bigbomm) 60
2. 4 Warbikers (3 biker's 1 Nob with PK and Bosspole) 140
3. Deff Kopter (twin linked Rocket Launcha, Bigbomm) 60
HEAVY:
1. 3 Killa Kans (3 Skorcha’s) 120
2. Battlewagon (Kannon, 2 Rokkit Launchas, 2 Big Shoota's, Ard Case, Armor plates) 155
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/13 04:28:27
Subject: Re:3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Sounds like you have a pretty clear idea of what you want to do - I'd be interested to know how it treats you.
Personally, I strongly believe in picking a theme and capitalizing on it. Orks are good at a lot of things, but not good at everything at the same time. Feels like you're trying to build a "balanced" and "can do a bit of everything" army.
Works for Space marines, not so good for Orks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/13 12:10:35
Subject: 3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
Lafayette, IN
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Why are you taking mekboys for loota slots? You are paying 45 points for 3 big shootas and trading 9 s6 36" shots for 3-9 s7 48" shots in the process.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/15 17:37:22
Subject: 3 Nobz for 75 points OR ????
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Been Around the Block
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Drop the KK
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