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JohnHwangDD wrote:

Jarran wrote:Heavy plasma gun? umm what in the emperors name is that?

It's what 2E / Necro called what we now know as a regular Plasma Gun.

Although, sometimes it gets moved around as a Plasma Cannon.

No, in the early days we had Plasma Guns and Heavy Plasma Guns. Plasma Cannons were huge vehicle-only weapons more akin to what you would find on a massive vehicle or planetary defence platform. You used to get Heavy Plasma Guns in IG and SM heavy weapon squads. GW later retconned the original Plasma Cannons out of existence (although one could argue they have become Plasma Blastguns) and renamed the Heavy Plasma Gun to Plasma Cannon.

The Heavy Plasma Gun on the French summary should be Plasma Cannon in English game terms.

BOY!

JohnHwangDD wrote:In RT, we had Plasma Gun (PG), Heavy Plasma Gun (HPG) and Plasma Cannon (PC).

I agree that rules-wise, the RT-era HPG is now the PC, and the RT-era PC is now the PBG.

I also agree that the FW Titan PlasmaBlastGun are something different, along with the gun on the Leman Russ Executioner, and can fairly represent the RT-era PC.


Plasma modeling has been a real mess, until more recently. The human 2E/Necro HPG looks *exactly* like the current PG as carried by the 3E SM. I have an Escher with a HPG, and she's carrying a SM PG. It is much smaller than the PC that my SM Devs carry.

The thing you've got to remember is that the size of the Heavy Plasma Gun used to vary according to the model that was carrying it. In IG and SM heavy weapon squads in Rogue Trader days, it was a two handed or shoulder-mounted Devastator style weapon:

http://www.solegends.com/citcat88/4003imperialguard.htm
http://www.solegends.com/citcat88/4103marines.htm
http://www.solegends.com/citcat911/c2109chaosrenegadeheavie.htm

Yet as a special weapon (and in Necromunda) it was significantly smaller*. However, it was still bigger than the Plasma Gun of the day. And on the whole, all the Necromunda "heavy" weapons were on the small side.

http://www.solegends.com/citcat89suml/c89suml-070121-2-03.htm

Still in 2nd/3rd ed the bulky shoulder mounted Devastator weapon was called the Heavy Plasma Gun.

http://www.solegends.com/citcat9x4/c93476-03.htm

Then GW just changed the name to Plasma Cannon for no apparent reason in 4th ed I think it was.

*Edit: And one could argue that these "3/4 size" Heavy Plasma Guns were aberrations.

BOY!

JohnHwangDD wrote:Agreed with all above.

I believe the name change was in 3E, when GW revamped 40k overall.

Yeah, I always forget where the specific editions change over, i.e. the 2nd/3rd and 3rd/4th divides. I think it's because Dark Millennium always throws me off.