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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 05:57:20
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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How many forms of Infiltrate are there, that are not listed in the main rule book. That is besides Deep Striking. I am a SoB player. I played 3 games at a turnament. Game 1 Ork Hord. A mass of Orks came in the game on my flank(with the special infiltrating ork character) In a Spearhead set up IT HURT. Game 2 Tyranids. 3 Lictors were deployed in contact/behind with 2 of my Battle squads.
I want to know What I am up aginst. How to defend aginst them. All I know is The rules pg 75 of the rulebook.
Would a few VSS with Auspex wargear be able to detect and shoot( just preventing Infiltrators is good)
{I am new so, Please don't post nasty notes for posting a stupid question.} Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 06:44:47
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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Well theres only one type of infiltrating, and auspexes do work against only this one (but so badly that its not worth bothering...).
Also units that have infiltrate can choose not to use it and instead use 'outflank' which is written on page 94. Thats how units can come onto the table from the sides.
With the ork unit, it was using a special ablity that lets it come on by your own table edge instead of the sides.
Deep striking isn't infiltrate either, its deep striking. But you already know about that.
3 Lictors were deployed in contact/behind with 2 of my Battle squads.
I presume you mean arriving by deep strike for this?
General advice, since your opponent has to declare which units are going to use which method of entering the table you can plan around that. If the ork special character is going to turn up on your own table edge you move away from it. Same thing if there are units using outflank to arrive from the sides.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 06:59:28
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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Snikkrott - the ork character - doesn't infiltrate. He's got another special rule that he conveys to his unit that allows them to come in from reserve from any table edge.
Lictors don't infiltrate either. They deep strike into area terrain, and can assault on the turn they arrive.
Auspexes are pretty useless.
When snikkrot's around - stay away from board edges.
When lictors are around - stay away from area terrain or fill up the area terrain with your own models so that the lictor can't be placed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 07:32:26
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Of course in spearhead deployment even normal reserves can feel like they're outflanking you since they come in from their table edge, but not limited to the orginal deployment quarter...
Something to keep in mind when that deployment is used.
Jack
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The rules:
1) Style over Substance.
2) Attitude is Everything.
3) Always take it to the Edge.
4) Break the Rules. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 07:55:32
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Jackmojo wrote:Of course in spearhead deployment even normal reserves can feel like they're outflanking you since they come in from their table edge, but not limited to the orginal deployment quarter...
Something to keep in mind when that deployment is used.
Jack
Incorrect. Reserves always come on from the long table edge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 08:09:36
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Centurian99 wrote:Jackmojo wrote:Of course in spearhead deployment even normal reserves can feel like they're outflanking you since they come in from their table edge, but not limited to the orginal deployment quarter...
Something to keep in mind when that deployment is used.
Jack
Incorrect. Reserves always come on from the long table edge.
Thats exactly what I mean...the reserves can deploy from the long table edge, right next to your setup quarter.
Jack
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The rules:
1) Style over Substance.
2) Attitude is Everything.
3) Always take it to the Edge.
4) Break the Rules. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 08:24:07
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh, I see. I thought you were talking about using all the edges of the deployment zone, to include the short table edge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/04 01:46:27
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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"Jack: right next to your setup quarter." Come on the board behind me?
"They deep strike into area terrain, and can assault on the turn they arrive. " I did have my battle squads in ruin buildings. That is how the lictors got there. Thank you guys very much. You have been very helpful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/04 03:08:23
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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resinmann wrote:"Jack: right next to your setup quarter." Come on the board behind me?
"They deep strike into area terrain, and can assault on the turn they arrive. " I did have my battle squads in ruin buildings. That is how the lictors got there. Thank you guys very much. You have been very helpful.
Not quite sure what you're saying, but:
Snikkrot has a special rule that allows him to come on from any table edge, not just the normal one from reserves.
To prevent Lictors from deep striking into a particular piece of area terrain, you need to fill the terrain up with your own models to the point that there's no way for your opponent to place the model so its at least 1" away from your models.
Neither of which has anything to do with infiltrate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/04 08:36:47
Subject: How many forms of Infiltrate are there.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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resinmann wrote:"Jack: right next to your setup quarter." Come on the board behind me?
Pardon my fast MS paint image (see bottom of my post), but I was clearly communicating via text poorly.
If you had setup in the upper left red area and the wheeled to face the enemy longwise, their normal reserves (no special rules required) can enter anywhere along their long edge and if you've advanced they can act rather like outflankers.
resinmann wrote:"They deep strike into area terrain, and can assault on the turn they arrive. " I did have my battle squads in ruin buildings. That is how the lictors got there. Thank you guys very much. You have been very helpful.
The only way to be safe from a lictor appearing in terrain occupied by your models is not to leave enough space for him to legaly place the model (ie he needs to place it not within 1 inch of your models) so you can fort up against lictors by filling a peice of terrain to a large enough degree they cannot appear in it...tanks can help
Jack
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/03/04 08:37:28
The rules:
1) Style over Substance.
2) Attitude is Everything.
3) Always take it to the Edge.
4) Break the Rules. |
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