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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 01:32:46
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Cant find any existing thread ( or i failed ) xD
so i was thinking, whats the possibility of Necron and Tyranid forming a "consume all" alliance?
We know they avoid each other ( ctan cant eat tyranid essence , tyranid cant salvage necron biomass )
So why not combine forces, and split the loots after ?
Ctans can eat all the souls they want, and tyranids will clean up the dead bodies into biomasses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 01:36:09
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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I don't even think the C'Tan talk to each other a whole lot, much less other races.
Plus, I've never hear of the Hive Mind communicating with anything that wasn't a Tyranid.
Doesn't seem like it would happen.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 01:36:18
Subject: Re:Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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How about C'tan have Shunned the hive mind out of the bugs and are using them for Meat shields. To me I can't see a mutual alliance there without one controlling another somehow, and I don't think the hive mind can possess tin cans. Kind of go along the lines of traitor guard or plague marines-Inductees if you will. That's my suggestion.
Very interesting though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 01:39:45
Subject: Re:Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Chances are they wont really have to communicate , sort of like
symbiotic relations example see the pic:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 01:45:36
Subject: Re:Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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To go along with tyranid fluff maybe the hive mind has been taken out of the picture. Now they are mindless eating machines and wander upon a battle in which the necrons are fighting something. Seeing as that fleshy talons don't hurt solid metal a whole bunch they decide to fight the softer of the two enemies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 02:04:25
Subject: Re:Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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LunaHound wrote:
Chances are they wont really have to communicate , sort of like
symbiotic relations example see the pic:
Yeah, but the Tyranids already have like a billion symbiotic relationships going on with themselves, so they're probably not looking to branch out.
Also, there is only war!
Necrons are pretty much made out of Grimdark, so they'd be the first to go if the game started allowing friendship in it.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 02:06:32
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Darn.... i already converted my tyranids into
"artifical synapse fleet"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 02:12:41
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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LunaHound wrote:Darn.... i already converted my tyranids into
"artifical synapse fleet"
Tyranids are life, the necrons would therefore kill them all. The necrons are not life, so the tyranids would not care about killing them. They wouldn't team up or be symbiotic or anything. If they ran into each other, the necrons would try to eradicate the nids, and the nids would just defend themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 02:37:07
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Orkeosaurus wrote:I don't even think the C'Tan talk to each other a whole lot, much less other races.
Plus, I've never hear of the Hive Mind communicating with anything that wasn't a Tyranid.
Doesn't seem like it would happen.
One of the long-lost races of Rogue trader is the Zoats who were centaur-like nids charged with negociating and communicating with other races (and subverting them and stalling them until they could be eaten). Plus there were Genestealer cults who infiltrated human society.
But as for an alliance, just don't see it. Necrons want to kill, Nids want to eat, they're more or less opposites.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 03:36:31
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Yeah, the Zoats weren't originally Tyranids so I'm not sure how they fit in. The Hive Mind stopped trying with them though, so I don't think they were too successful.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 03:56:12
Subject: Re:Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Battleship Captain
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Both eat life, both scary as heck, seems right to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 04:25:22
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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Dude... what if the nids took the biomass from a nightbringer into their hive and distributed the gene code... T8 gaunts :O?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 04:36:53
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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The Nightbringer's made of energy.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 07:03:30
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Plus, I've never hear of the Hive Mind communicating with anything that wasn't a Tyranid.
Zoats, Genestealer Cults, and a short story featuring Space Wolf Scouts penetrating a Tyranid ship and having their Rune Priest in training have an entire conversation with the Hive Mind where it tempts him to join it and then eats him to force him to do it anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 07:07:52
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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That sounds like a really bad story.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 16:12:42
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There's some speculation that one of the C'Tans, the Outsider I believe, is the reason that they nids entered the galactic plane to begin with.
Nids avoid Necron tomb planets like they're contaminated, and hive fleets have moved out of their way to go around them. Whether it's because the nids can sense the life-devouring nature of the C'Tan or because there's no life at all on a tomb world - only GW knows.
The C'Tan are crafty, though, especially the Deceiver and if anything in the grimdark can direct/influence/manipulate the hivemind it would be the Deceiver. Tyranids do make use of warp energy though, something the C'Tan and Necrons find anathema.
It's not likely that there would be a supervillan team up, but I'd give the idea of one side using the other decent odds. More likely than Ghazghkull sitting down for tea with Eldrad and Abbaddon playing My Little Ponies with Calgar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/07 17:06:27
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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i like the idea alot but its just not plausible
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/08 02:02:52
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Battleship Captain
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typhus wrote:i like the idea alot but its just not plausible
Damn, up to 667 posts now. It is plausible. GW says you can do anything you want really with your armies. Also, I'm the neighbor of the beast!!!! I say go for it Luna, it can at least be a cool idea for some fluff. Hmmmmm..............
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/08 02:06:48
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Golden Eyed Scout wrote:typhus wrote:i like the idea alot but its just not plausible
Damn, up to 667 posts now. It is plausible. GW says you can do anything you want really with your armies. Also, I'm the neighbor of the beast!!!! I say go for it Luna, it can at least be a cool idea for some fluff. Hmmmmm..............
Nono mty conversion isnt really related to this thread xD
the *fluff behind my nid is , they are a group of splinterfleet thats some how
lost their link with the main hive , renegade Imperium scientists took the opportunity
to create a fake synapse link. They implant the machines to all the synapse creatures,
thus successfully been able to control the whole fleet
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/08 02:07:27
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Golden Eyed Scout wrote: Damn, up to 667 posts now. It is plausible. GW says you can do anything you want really with your armies. Also, I'm the neighbor of the beast!!!! I say go for it Luna, it can at least be a cool idea for some fluff. Hmmmmm.............. No, 668 and 664 are the neighbors of the Beast. 667's "the creepy guy across the street watching you through his telescope" of the Beast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0001/03/08 02:26:37
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Battleship Captain
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LunaHound wrote:Golden Eyed Scout wrote:typhus wrote:i like the idea alot but its just not plausible
Damn, up to 667 posts now. It is plausible. GW says you can do anything you want really with your armies. Also, I'm the neighbor of the beast!!!! I say go for it Luna, it can at least be a cool idea for some fluff. Hmmmmm..............
Nono mty conversion isnt really related to this thread xD
the *fluff behind my nid is , they are a group of splinterfleet thats some how
lost their link with the main hive , renegade Imperium scientists took the opportunity
to create a fake synapse link. They implant the machines to all the synapse creatures,
thus successfully been able to control the whole fleet 
Sounds bad a$$. Go for it, I look forward to seeing your fluff. I can't figure out where your damn avatar is from!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/08 02:28:21
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Battleship Captain
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Platuan4th wrote:Golden Eyed Scout wrote: Damn, up to 667 posts now. It is plausible. GW says you can do anything you want really with your armies. Also, I'm the neighbor of the beast!!!! I say go for it Luna, it can at least be a cool idea for some fluff. Hmmmmm..............
No, 668 and 664 are the neighbors of the Beast. 667's "the creepy guy across the street watching you through his telescope" of the Beast.
No thats 665. 667 is the bouncer who watches Roadhouse all the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/14 22:33:19
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Gavin Thorne wrote:There's some speculation that one of the C'Tans, the Outsider I believe, is the reason that they nids entered the galactic plane to begin with.
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Nonsense. The only reason Nids even exist is because the Orks believe there's a better opponent out there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/14 23:01:29
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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I don't think there's enough justification for it for GW to authorize it en masse. That being said, it's a neat idea and I think it would make for a cool scenario. Design a mini campaign around it and share it with Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/15 00:30:11
Subject: Necron and Tyranid Alliance?
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