Apoc Strategic Assets:One Use?

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**Eight Ball**

Alright, going through some of the Strategic Assets in Apoc (and Apoc:Reload), I was wondering:

Some of the assets say "(One use only)" or "one (and only one) turn", but if it doesn't say that, can it be used EVERY turn?

For the case above, the asset I was looking at was in Reload, a Necron asset by the name of "Subvert Machine", basically I wanna know if I can use it more than once...

**Steelmage99**

If you even worry about stuff like that, you have missed the point of Apocalypse.

Way, way missed it.

**Homer S**

Did the part about "one" of your shooting phases confuse you? If you got to use it more than "one" time, it might have used a word other than "one".

Apologies if you are reading a non-English translation that got butchered.

Homer

**Eight Ball**

Well, with the "one" wording, one of the assets right beside it says "one", then goes on to say it can be used more than once...

**Homer S**

Reconstruction Scarabs work on one unit per turn, once revealed. It seems that for Necrons in Apoc Reload, they are all fairly clear. I'm not saying they all are but that is GW for you, Clear, schmear!

Homer

**Eight Ball**

Aight, well thanks Homer for the ACTUAL help, I just wanted to be 100% sure for most of this stuff for an upcoming tournament...

**Janthkin**

Eight Ball wrote:Aight, well thanks Homer for the ACTUAL help, I just wanted to be 100% sure for most of this stuff for an upcoming tournament...

Wait, you've got Apocalypse tournaments up north?

**Eight Ball**

Yeah....WAYY up here, where there is always snow, and we live in Igloos, our local GW is hosting an Apoc tourney...

(Joking BTW)

**Lordhat**

LOL the first person who can chip their titan out of the ice without harming the model wins a kerosene powered space heater!

**Eight Ball**

woot I'll grab my iceaxe!

**Homer S**

Eight Ball wrote:Yeah....WAYY up here, where there is always snow, and we live in Igloos, our local GW is hosting an Apoc tourney...

(Joking BTW)

Do you roll ice cubes for dice? Ba-Dump-Bump!

When I play in Apoc big games, I field some variation on The Great Court. That way, I get to field most of my fun models. They also happen to be mostly painted.

Have fun!
Homer

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

Tell me it doesn't bug you when you go to play apocalypse and some d-bag has three baneblades, none of which are painted.

**Platuan4th**

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Tell me it doesn't bug you when you go to play apocalypse and some d-bag has three baneblades, none of which are painted.

It doesn't bug me. I get to enjoy my painted army and then win by wiping out everything they have that's scoring.

**Eight Ball**

Actually, at the FLGS, unprimed models aren't allowed on the table lol.

**mikhaila**

When I host an Apoc game, I don't let unpainted models on the board. When the board is 6'x32', it's tough enough keeping track of things as is, let alone with a bunch of unpainted stuff blending together. We run a lot of Apoc though, at least one big game a month, so people work on getting their stuff done.

We did allow Shadowswords/Stormlords and Stompas to be unpainted for our last Apoc game, but only because people had a whopping two days to buy the kit and put it together. My two stompers were, of course, painted by then. But I cheat.

**Masaioh**

mikhaila wrote:When I host an Apoc game, I don't let unpainted models on the board. When the board is 6'x32', it's tough enough keeping track of things as is, let alone with a bunch of unpainted stuff blending together. We run a lot of Apoc though, at least one big game a month, so people work on getting their stuff done.

We did allow Shadowswords/Stormlords and Stompas to be unpainted for our last Apoc game, but only because people had a whopping two days to buy the kit and put it together. My two stompers were, of course, painted by then. But I cheat.

Seriously?

For one thing, 6'x32' board sounds insane. But why do you care if models are painted or not, especially in apoc? Is this a tournament or just with friends? There are 5 people I play 40k with, and at least 75% of all our armies are grey/primed, and each of us has at least 2-3k pts.

To the OP, do you live in Alberta?

**Eight Ball**

Masaioh:
Sorry, no...I live near Winnipeg...

**Janthkin**

Masaioh wrote:
mikhaila wrote:When I host an Apoc game, I don't let unpainted models on the board. When the board is 6'x32', it's tough enough keeping track of things as is, let alone with a bunch of unpainted stuff blending together. We run a lot of Apoc though, at least one big game a month, so people work on getting their stuff done.

We did allow Shadowswords/Stormlords and Stompas to be unpainted for our last Apoc game, but only because people had a whopping two days to buy the kit and put it together. My two stompers were, of course, painted by then. But I cheat.

Seriously?

For one thing, 6'x32' board sounds insane. But why do you care if models are painted or not, especially in apoc? Is this a tournament or just with friends? There are 5 people I play 40k with, and at least 75% of all our armies are grey/primed, and each of us has at least 2-3k pts.

Important contextual note: Mikhaila owns/operates several gaming stores. It's definitely in his interest to promote pretty painted armies on the (giant!) tabletop.

**mikhaila**

Masaioh wrote:
mikhaila wrote:When I host an Apoc game, I don't let unpainted models on the board. When the board is 6'x32', it's tough enough keeping track of things as is, let alone with a bunch of unpainted stuff blending together. We run a lot of Apoc though, at least one big game a month, so people work on getting their stuff done.

We did allow Shadowswords/Stormlords and Stompas to be unpainted for our last Apoc game, but only because people had a whopping two days to buy the kit and put it together. My two stompers were, of course, painted by then. But I cheat.

Seriously?

For one thing, 6'x32' board sounds insane. But why do you care if models are painted or not, especially in apoc? Is this a tournament or just with friends? There are 5 people I play 40k with, and at least 75% of all our armies are grey/primed, and each of us has at least 2-3k pts.

To the OP, do you live in Alberta?

These are held at my store in Philly. We started requiring fully painted armies for all of our events years ago.
We often rent out extra space to hold big events, spend a couple thousand dollars a year, (and untold hours of work) making scenery and tables. A lot of work goes into the events on our side. In return we ask that players paint their armies for the events. To help them, we've held weekly painting classes with free paint for the last 7 years.

It helps a ton in Apocalyspe to have stuff painted. When you get 40,000 pts per table side, it gets fairly confusing. Requiring painted armies, armie lists, and rulebooks also helps winnow out the players that would slow the game down to a crawl. We like to get in 6 turns of our Apoc games. It's too much work to spend 6 hours setting up and rolling dice and only getting in 3 turns. I'd rather have 10 people per side, with painted armies and players that know the rules, than 20 per side and a mix of unpainted armies and newer players that can barely handle 40k, let alone and Apoc megabattle.

**Steelmage99**

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Tell me it doesn't bug you when you go to play apocalypse and some d-bag has three baneblades, none of which are painted.

It bugs me when playing a 6000 point Apocalypse game versus Chaos Space Marines......and the opponent doesn't have a single Chaos Space Marine on the table! Not one!

Plenty of Defilers, Landraiders, Vindicators, Greater Deamons, Deamon Princes and Obliterators though.

*shakes head*

Let it be know that I blame Americans for that kind of thing.

**Masaioh**

Sorry, I didn't know that.

It's also kinda different with my group, because there is no set point value for our games, we just use our entire collection sorted into teams. Theres a 2k-something nid army, around 2k pts tau, 2k pts chaos, 5k pts SM, and my 8k pts chaos as a guesstimate. I haven't gotten into any games since I started Orks, because we all have school/work, and a couple of these guys have bills to pay.

**mikhaila**

We have to put limits on what folks bring to ours, too many people in the area that can field 10k to 20k in painted figures.)
We're going to start doing a few with just 2-3 of us per side, start at 9pm, and play until 6am. Then we can field our whole armies.

**Daggermaw**

These are held at my store in Philly.

Where's your store in philly? I'd love to be able to go to any store besides the GW ones here.

**mikhaila**

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