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160 euros this new box

Well that's less than ideal. I like both warbands but I'm not sure the terrain and cardboard are worth the extra 80€ when I already have the old starter.

Schmapdi wrote:
Whoever decided it was OK to put those Rat Ogres in a box in the year of our lord 2020 should be ashamed of themselves.

Those have go to be like, 25 years old at this point? And they look like poo. Is going to absolutely tank the sales of the Skaven box.

They’re not that old, because I’m 25 and they came out while I was getting into the hobby at around 10. They are awful models though.

zamerion wrote:
160 euros this new box

Good thing I don't like the included warbands all that much.

So probably £125? So a 25% increase over the last one, which came out just over a year ago. For less stuff. Lovely.

Schmapdi wrote:
Whoever decided it was OK to put those Rat Ogres in a box in the year of our lord 2020 should be ashamed of themselves.

Those have go to be like, 25 years old at this point? And they look like poo. Is going to absolutely tank the sales of the Skaven box.

Thing is skaven don't really have many modern smaller infantry models in plastic. Plague Monks, Night Runners and Stormvermin are all older plastic kits of the same era as the Rat Ogres. Thing is the Rat Ogres also comes with Giant rats and handlers so suddenly its a more interesting and diverse box than just having two infantry groups included.

Sure the Ogres are darn ugly compared to modern sculpts, but its more diversity within the group which is likely more of a boon for Warcry.

 Overread wrote:

Schmapdi wrote:
Whoever decided it was OK to put those Rat Ogres in a box in the year of our lord 2020 should be ashamed of themselves.

Those have go to be like, 25 years old at this point? And they look like poo. Is going to absolutely tank the sales of the Skaven box.

Thing is skaven don't really have many modern smaller infantry models in plastic. Plague Monks, Night Runners and Stormvermin are all older plastic kits of the same era as the Rat Ogres. Thing is the Rat Ogres also comes with Giant rats and handlers so suddenly its a more interesting and diverse box than just having two infantry groups included.

Sure the Ogres are darn ugly compared to modern sculpts, but its more diversity within the group which is likely more of a boon for Warcry.

Stormvermin are absolutely not the same era as the others. They came the same time as the current clanrats, the screaming bell, etc.

 ImAGeek wrote:
So probably £125? So a 25% increase over the last one, which came out just over a year ago. For less stuff. Lovely.

Ugh. I want this, but idk if I £125 want this. Especially as there's the slaanesh vs DoK box coming soon, and presumably Christmas boxes. I wish I'd gotten the previous starter set now.

Ashaar wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
So probably £125? So a 25% increase over the last one, which came out just over a year ago. For less stuff. Lovely.

Ugh. I want this, but idk if I £125 want this. Especially as there's the slaanesh vs DoK box coming soon, and presumably Christmas boxes. I wish I'd gotten the previous starter set now.

I have regretted not getting the better value sets that come early when I see the subsequent pricehike/less content in later sets, however I've just started to ignore these too. And although I don't want to go off on a pricing rant, I do believe some of the recent prices have gone way too high

Full Euro price list

Warbands up in price as well to £36 except KO which is £40. At this rate the new GA books will probably be around £25 each by the time they release

Yep, it's clearly less of a deal in comparison to before.

When you go to the point where Necromunda is cheaper, that's a sign you should change games.

i'd have really liked to get my hands on some of the flaming cultists for some conversions, alas, that is a tad too pricey ..

The game is fairly popular at my local store due to how casual and simple it is. We often get family members or friends who aren't into tabletop gaming coming along or filling in.
I'm surprised they went for such a steep entry point price to this sort of game, expecting around 120gbp.
One of the problems we come across is sometimes none of the people with the core set can come, yet lots of people have the warbands ready. SO we either houserule some stuff together with store terrain or dont play.

I'm sure they could have made a shorter rulebook or just included indoor terrain to get the price down. I don't see it selling that well.

I also find base sizes an issue if playing the original single board set. These door ways look like they wont fit a 40mm stormcast let alone any sort of elite/ small monster

Chrisazgo wrote:

I also find base sizes an issue if playing the original single board set. These door ways look like they wont fit a 40mm stormcast let alone any sort of elite/ small monster

They'll certainly use the same rules for doors in Warcry, ie if the base of a fighter allowed to pass through doors is bigger, they can still go if their move is enough.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Overread wrote:

Schmapdi wrote:
Whoever decided it was OK to put those Rat Ogres in a box in the year of our lord 2020 should be ashamed of themselves.

Those have go to be like, 25 years old at this point? And they look like poo. Is going to absolutely tank the sales of the Skaven box.

Thing is skaven don't really have many modern smaller infantry models in plastic. Plague Monks, Night Runners and Stormvermin are all older plastic kits of the same era as the Rat Ogres. Thing is the Rat Ogres also comes with Giant rats and handlers so suddenly its a more interesting and diverse box than just having two infantry groups included.

Sure the Ogres are darn ugly compared to modern sculpts, but its more diversity within the group which is likely more of a boon for Warcry.

Stormvermin are absolutely not the same era as the others. They came the same time as the current clanrats, the screaming bell, etc.

Night Runners date back to Mordheim (so 1999 I guess), Rat Ogres and Plague Monks were released alongside the Lustria campaign (2005), and the Stormvermin are indeed from the same time as most other recent sets in their range, which would be 2009. Not only does everything from before the Clanrats/Stormvermin look dated, the basic Skaven physique was changed considerably with the 7th ed range, so the old sculpts don't fit in as well with these either.

Betcha the two new warbands will also be 47,50 € to make the starter look better

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
The Board Pack looks like the images were designed for a square board originally and stretched to fit a rectangle.
The lava canal board in the main set looks good.

Oh damn you're right. That's some Mantic-level mehgoodenoughism.

Scrolled straight past that originally, but oof, that's bad. Or... maybe the chaotic worshippers are just really into ovals, and non-square rectangles. Yes, I'm sure that's what's going on. It's definitely not stretched to 133% of the original size in one dimension.

Hmmm the board in the packaging looks normal tho!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Hmmm the board in the packaging looks normal tho!

Remember that the boards fold in on themselves.

This is one portion of the board, viewed as it would be in packaging folded up. Looks like it's the upper right corner of the top board.

This is an image of both sides of the boards fully laid out, likely just compression is screwing with it...alternative is that it just is copy/pasted from the actual art file.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Betcha the two new warbands will also be 47,50 € to make the starter look better

New sku's gets steadily more expensive. If people expected to get same price as sku　released year ago they were kidding themselves. Next year if they release new bands 50 limit likely broken

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Betcha the two new warbands will also be 47,50 € to make the starter look better

Not only the warbands, the extra book (I don't think the old starter came with two books), the terrain pieces and the board. I expect this box is going to save you about 60€ as compared to buying things individually. I'm totally out, the price is a murder for someone on my wage, even with a discount.

What's in the box article

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/19/warcry-catacombs-whats-in-the-box/

Nothing we hadn't seen from previous images.

Better look at the terrain



The doors appear to go in set positions on the boards judging by the gaps in the black lines. I can finish my D&L board now knowing that.

Using today's Euro to USD conversion rate, the Catacombs starter is $188.541, an Euro 47.50 warband is $55.97, and the Euro 55 warband is $64.8124. My earlier post about pricing was optimistic; while I knew it would not go down, I did not expect an increase on a comparatively young game, especially when discretionary spending is down for most people. That's a good way to boost a competitor's business.

Edit: Assuming that GW rounds to the nearest 5, Catacombs will be $190, Euro 47.50 warband will be $55, and the Kharadron warband will be $65.

You never do a 1:1 conversion. It doesn't work. Prices are set in advance and GW uses a bracket system, for all intents and purposes.

https://www.gamekastle.com/online/index.php?&m=list&psearch=Warcry+&sort=new

Has the MSRP prices for the new stuff, starter set is $210

So basically its a 10 percent price hike from last year. Edit# if that 210 dollar price is accurate, they can keep it. Id rather throw in a few extra bucks and buy the newest necromunda set for that price range.

What is a bracket system as applied to consumer goods? Looking up the term I found tournament brackets and a Tunisian pricing system intended to moderate water use.

 Kanluwen wrote:
You never do a 1:1 conversion. It doesn't work. Prices are set in advance and GW uses a bracket system, for all intents and purposes.

 Hellfury wrote:
So basically its a 10 percent price hike from last year. Edit# if that 210 dollar price is accurate, they can keep it. Id rather throw in a few extra bucks and buy the newest necromunda set for that price range.

Not just 10%. This has no beasts and less terrain (not obscenely less as I first thought, but definitely less).
The randomization of their price system strikes again.

I said 10 percent before the post about the cost being 210. This is closer to a 25 percent increase, minus the cards, a dozen models, half the building terrain. And we dont even know if the catacomb rules suck or not. For all we know, this could be arena for aos. Blech. Edit# if the catacomb rules suck half as bad as much of the new terrain seems to (the close ups arent doing them any favors here) then its almost actively repellent.

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
What is a bracket system as applied to consumer goods? Looking up the term I found tournament brackets and a Tunisian pricing system intended to moderate water use.

 Kanluwen wrote:
You never do a 1:1 conversion. It doesn't work. Prices are set in advance and GW uses a bracket system, for all intents and purposes.

They have, effectively, set price brackets where they put items in. It has some variances within accounting for currency shifts but it encompasses some older stuff as well as new.