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So I have been browsing Dakka for a while and looking at a lot of the New IG army rosters people have been posting and have yet to find a list that resembles mine. I have used it a few times already and it has been working like a real charm. You guys just tell me what you think!

Company Command Squad
Creed & Kell
Medic & Vox
Astropath
2 Body Guards

1st Infantry Platoon
Command Squad
3 Plasma and Commander has Melta Bombs
2 Infantry Squads
Sergeant has Melta bombs
Sniper rifles & vox

2 Las HWS
2 ML HWS
1 Mortar HWS

2nd Infantry Platoon
Command Squad w/ Al'Rahem, krak grens, and 3 plasma
2 Inf squads with krak grenades and a power weapon sergeant
The entire platoon is in Chimeras and outflank

Vet squad mounted in a Chimera
Bastonne, Grenadiers, and all have Shotguns

2 LR with just the hull Las

Where I play the tournaments are really based on objectives. With the old guard lists I found it difficult to actually capture the objectives. The purpose of AL'Rahem and his guys is to be able to pack a pretty hard punch and still get objectives. Bastonne and his guys are not game winners, but rather a unit that I keep hidden until the right moment to run out, mop up, and take an objective.

Tell me what you guys think, and if you have any suggestions!

Well, first off, a slogan:

IG: If you're not taking two HQs, you're doing it wrong!"

CHQs are BS 4, with 4 assault weapon slots, and the ability to issue orders. Compare a CHQ squad to a Vet. Squad with Bastogne: Sure, it's only 5 models, but it has eight wounds, and can issue its own order AND an extra order. For roughly 1/2 the price.

Anyway, other than your HQ shortage, here's some quick thoughts:

Manstein wrote:1st Infantry Platoon
Command Squad
3 Plasma and Commander has Melta Bombs

Why only 3?

2 Infantry Squads
Sergeant has Melta bombs
Sniper rifles & vox

My first reaction: Yuck! The only reason not to give an infantry squad a cheap autocannon is because you plan to move it. Sniper Rifles, being a heavy weapon, suggest you plan to stand still. Buy those heavy weapons.

Also: Sniper rifles alone don't work, unless your whole strategy revolves around pinning checks with Psychic Choirs.

2 Las HWS
2 ML HWS
1 Mortar HWS

Drop those 2 ML HWS down to 2 AC HWS. You'll save 30 points, and be better!

2nd Infantry Platoon
Command Squad w/ Al'Rahem, krak grens, and 3 plasma
2 Inf squads with krak grenades and a power weapon sergeant
The entire platoon is in Chimeras and outflank

Again, why only 3 plasma? And even if you plan to be mobile, it might be worth buying cheap heavy weapons for games where you decide not to be...

Vet squad mounted in a Chimera
Bastonne, Grenadiers, and all have Shotguns

Basonne seems very expensive for what you get. As does Carapace, since the Chimera can keep the passengers alive. And these guys NEED assault weapons.

2 LR with just the hull Las

Drop to hull HB and save 30 points. Most hull-down positions deny you a field of fire for the hull weapon, anyway.

Excellent suggestions!

First off I was totally unaware that two Command Platoons could be taken, silly thought I suppose!
I must agree with you on your point, drop the Vet Squad in the Chimera and replace it with the Command HQ, it is only 5 models but it does have 8 and for another 30 Pts. I can drop in a medic and give them all Feel no Pain for less than the Vet squad for sure.

Again, excellent suggestion.


As to your comment on the Plasma guns. With the old codex I ran 4 a squad, but now I am simply limited by point cost. But, if I make the changes to the Bastonne Vet squad, I can go back and add more.

Good point on the Sniper Rifle, I like the AC suggestion. This goes the same for dropping the ML's in the HWS to AC HWS.

As for the Al'Rahem squad, I forgot to list that I have a vox and medic. Since his commands will be limited to the two squads he was with (as opposed to the normal HWS) I felt behooved to take a vox caster.

In reference to your last quoted comment. In the games I play I sometimes find myself in the posistion where the BC on the LR has no real juicy targets, or the enemy simply has a great deal of armor. Although it may sound finicky I am usually pretty good about the LoS on the hull Las, but I totally understand your point.

Thanks for the help!

Two more quick things to ask that I forgot!

First things first, how do you feel about medics?

Second, if I do replace the Bastonne squad what am I arming my CHQ with? Their purpose is to mop up and light resistance and take an objective later in the game. So I am thinking 2 body guards and four guys with flamers?

Just wondering if you have any thoughts on the matter.

Thanks again!

For 2000 points, you have almost no effective anti-tank. You need melta squads and lots of them. CCS is most effective when used with 4x Melta and "Bring it Down!"

And Medics? Save the points for more guys/meltas/plasma.