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Hive Tyrant-2X Twink Linked Devourer, Adrenal Glands +1IN, Adrenal Glands +1WS, Bio Plasma, Enhance Senses +1 BS, Flesh Hooks, Implants Attack, Toxin Sacs +1S, Winged, Warp Field

Hive Tyrant-2X Twink Linked Devourer, Adrenal Glands +1IN, Adrenal Glands +1WS, Bio Plasma, Enhance Senses +1 BS, Flesh Hooks, Implants Attack, Toxin Sacs +1S, Warp Field, Comes with 3 Tyrant Guards with Implant Attack

Carnifex-2X Twin Linked Devourer, Adrenal Glands +1IN, Adrenal Glands +1WS,Bio Plasma, Bonded Exoskeleton +1 Toughness, Enhanced Senses +1 BS, Extended Carapace +1 Save, Implant Attack, Reinforced Chitin, Acid Maw

Carnifex-2X Twin Linked Devourer, Adrenal Glands +1IN, Adrenal Glands +1WS,Bio Plasma, Bonded Exoskeleton +1 Toughness, Enhanced Senses +1 BS, Extended Carapace +1 Save, Implant Attack, Reinforced Chitin

Carnifex-2X Twin Linked Devourer, Adrenal Glands +1IN, Adrenal Glands +1WS,Bio Plasma, Bonded Exoskeleton +1 Toughness, Enhanced Senses +1 BS, Extended Carapace +1 Save, Implant Attack, Reinforced Chitin

Carnifex-2X Twin Linked Devourer, Enhanced Senses +1 BS

Carnifex-2X Twin Linked Devourer, Enhanced Senses +1 BS

Carnifex-2X Twin Linked Devourer, Enhanced Senses +1 BS

Gaunt Brood X8- Spinefist WON

Hormagaunt X8- Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands +1IN, Adrenal Glands +1WS, Extended Carapce +1Save, Toxin Sacs +1S


Hormagaunt X8- Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands +1IN, Adrenal Glands +1WS, Extended Carapce +1Save, Toxin Sacs +1S

I wouldnt call it cheesy because its not.

But people WILL feel its cheesy only because its so repetitive and boring!

I think two more units of WON guants would better serve your list. It just seems that once your two hormy units are dead. The only other option would be to remove the guants on turn five and or finish them up. You might be able to contest but do you really want to play my game, or your game? Your game is a forced hand and my game allows me to react to your forced hand.

You have an 1850pt list without a single ranged weapon over s6, no ap1-2 at all and a total of 3 units with 24 scoring models consisting of T3, 1 wound and a 5+ save each.

Call it cheese all you want, I would LOVE to see this army across the table from me. Against any decent take-all-comers list you're going to get slaughtered. Anti-tank takes out the flying tyrant, everything else focuses on your troops til they're gone. After that I just play keep away from your MCs.

I hate to say it but I'd start all over again if I were you. Your current list is hard to kill but that's it. If this was 4th ed, I'd say you've got some game. In 5th the focus is on troops and lots of them. Nid troops have to be taken in large numbers to have any hope of doing something useful.

You also have no way at all to take out Tau, eldar or a few other mech lists. Simply said, you can't do anything to a vehicle with AV12 or better unless you're assaulting it. Your 6" move + run will not catch my 12" skimmer movement and the whole time you're taking lascannon, railgun, etc to the face.

I'm going to have to disagree with that guy. With every single MC being essentially the same wound saturation is very high, your opponent won't know what to shoot at!

You're playing the wrong edition.
With 3 min troops, you autolose 2/3rds of the missions.
Nidzilla can't score.
I think new guard would love to play against this list.

Wow, I have never seen a list like this, and I gotta say I think that mission based games are gonna go terribly bad for you.

KP wise, sure you may do some damage to the softer units, but as mentioned above against mechanized lists you are seriously screwed.

On another note, I don't underdstand all the cc upgrades on your dakkafexes. They have 2 attacks each. You would be better off replacing some/all of the elite dakkafexes with boomfexes. Better range, better tank busting capability, better at cc (1 more attack). Then replace your hormagaunts with more WoN spine gaunts.

Filthy Sanchez wrote: no ap1-2 at all and a total of 3 units with 24 scoring models consisting of T3, 1 wound and a 5+ save each.

Hehe, have you ever read the tyranid codex?

You are playing the wrong edition.

So i played this Army this weekend and it absolutely destroyed the Fex's have the CC bonus the wipe out tanks and squads if they tried to tar pit me the reason its cheeses it do dice hammer i re roll my hits and wounds on all my monstrous creatures the only problem i had with the army is against 13+ armor on tanks other than it it was brutal

Have fun with objective missions. That one tiny unit of WON gaunts won't win you those games as it is pretty simple to just kill 8 gaunts every turn.

You would greatly benefit from longer range weapons too. Some Barbed Stranglers on the heavy support fexes will go a long way.

Well, against any decent 5th ed army, you will go down hard with your puny troops.

Even worse, when you face a solid Mech list like Tau, Eldar, the new IG, SM LR spam, and others like them, you will lose very, very badly. All they have to do is pop your Flyrant and burn down your 3 weak troops choices...then the Fex's are nothing. You won't be able to catch/kill their tanks fast enough, so they have you beat on KPs, and you have no troops, so they will own you in objectives.

You really need to go back to the drawing board and make better troop selections. Nidzilla can still work well in 5th, but only with the right troops support.

Awilkers54 wrote:So i played this Army this weekend and it absolutely destroyed the Fex's have the CC bonus the wipe out tanks and squads if they tried to tar pit me the reason its cheeses it do dice hammer i re roll my hits and wounds on all my monstrous creatures the only problem i had with the army is against 13+ armor on tanks other than it it was brutal

What kind of list did you play against?

I think you have too many upgrades on the tyrants and the HS 'Fex's.
As mentioned you are lacking the ability to kill any fast army or any armored army. A smart player will keep all his Armor away from your slow moving 'Fexs.
You are lacking ranged firepower, and with the exception of the small Hormagaunt squads and your Flyrant, you have no speed. No offense but a smart player would mop you up in any scenario.

If you like the list, then don't let us stop you from playing it, but you asked what we think.

I say drop as many upgrades on the MC's as you deem reasonable and buy more squads with WoN.
I would also squeeze three Zoanthropes in there to deal with Armor.

Just MHO
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It is a good idea to have the devourers, but don't you want a few barbed stranglers in there (for range and higher strength I believe?). These have given me fits in the 3 games I've played against Tyranids with tau in 5th edition. The devourers haven't so much, due to their shorter range and lower strength...

LunaHound wrote:But people WILL feel its cheesy only because its so repetitive and boring!

And this is true! If you mix up the armaments, not only will you be more effective, but people will feel it's simply Nidzilla, not the C-word

You might want a few more troops (as has been mentioned a few times) though! You'll have trouble keeping them alive, since your opponent may target them to take out your scoring units!

So I'd just adjust the layout of your MCs a bit, maybe drop 1-2 to get some more troops

Clay Williams wrote:

Filthy Sanchez wrote: no ap1-2 at all and a total of 3 units with 24 scoring models consisting of T3, 1 wound and a 5+ save each.

Hehe, have you ever read the tyranid codex?

Yes, I have read the codex. Seems at least 1 or 2 times more than you have.

You got me on the 5+ save, it's 6+. Meh.

What I was saying with the no ap1-2 is that he had no reliable way of dealing with TEQs other than MCs which he'll have a tough time catching anything with.

Focused Warp Blast on Zoeys or HTs = S 10, AP 2.
Any model with rending (Genestealers, Lictors, Broodlords, Tyrant Guards, Raveners or Warriors w/ RC) that roll a 6 on the wound are counted as AP2.

As someone who's tried to play this list I can tell you, in 5th there will be very few occasions where you'll win. On a few you'll be brutal, but overall I think you'll be disappointed.

I'd vouch for taking all the upgrades off of the carnifexes, make at least 2 boomfexes, drop the hormagaunts, and put in more gaunts. It's not a cheesy list, just a fery fery fluffy pfone. If you were facing a gunline with objectives I think you'd be hurt very badly. Or if you faced fire prisms or terminators. Or if you were against a drop pod army. Or if you were against an ork bike mob.

Drop a fex and add some WoN guants and buff up your brood sizes.

Yeah, this isn't a good list. I'm a BAD Tyranid player and wouldn't make a list like this.

The only way you can hurt a tank is your Warp Blast on your Tyrants, and you really aren't even that good at taking out troops, because you only have 8 shots per Fex. An MEQ army would tear this list to shreds.

You need a Venom Cannon and/or Barbed Strangler on a Fex or two, and hormagaunts are overpriced for their lack of capability. Turn all of them to normal Gaunts and that will immediately be better.

I'm starting to think this whole list was a joke to begin with.

Grunt_For_Christ wrote:I'm starting to think this whole list was a joke to begin with.

come on guys , OP just posted ONCE asking about this matter.

You guys just build and build upon it (upon yourselves ), it was a simple question.

Sadly it's not a joke, Four of his eight topics he started are about a variation of this same 1850 list.

The sad part is he has one strong build in there.


This one...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/231735.page

Exept for the illegal combo of feeder tentrils/implant attack on his Stealers.

Ok, so this thread wasn't a joke... It was just a re-run.