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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/07 23:18:51
Subject: Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Morynski’s Mauraders 35th Threshen Guard
1500pts
HQ
Company Command Squad
Josef Morynski (Company Commander)
4x Veterans
1x Master of Ordinance
Lasguns
Vox Caster
Plasma Gun
Lascannon
130pts
Elites
Sergeant Croner “The Loner” (Marbo)
65pts
Troops
Veteran Squad
Shotguns
2x Meltaguns
1x Flamer
Vox Caster
Demolitions
130pts
1st Platoon
Platoon Command Squad
Platoon Commander
Bolt Pistol
4x Veterans
Lasguns
Grenade Launcher
Vox Caster
Missile Launcher
57pts
Infantry Squad
Missile Launcher
Grenade Launcher
Vox Caster
75pts
Infantry Squad
Missile Launcher
Grenade Launcher
Vox Caster
75pts
Infantry Squad
Missile Launcher
Grenade Launcher
Vox Caster
75pts
Special Weapons Squad
Grenade Launcher
40pts
Heavy Weapon Squad
Mortars
60pts
2nd Platoon
Platoon Command Squad
Platoon Commander
Bolt Pistol
4x Guardsmen
Lasguns
Grenade Launcher
Vox Caster
Heavy Bolter
52pts
Infantry Squad
Heavy Bolter
Grenade Launcher
Vox Caster
70pts
Infantry Squad
Heavy Bolter
Grenade Launcher
Vox Caster
70pts
Infantry Squad
Heavy Bolter
Grenade Launcher
Vox Caster
70pts
Special Weapon Squad
2x Demolition Charges
75pts
Heavy Weapon Squad
Mortars
60pts
Fast Attack
Armored Sentinel
Extra Armor
Autocannon
60pts
Armored Sentinel
Extra Armor
Autocannon
60pts
Armored Sentinel
Extra Armor
Autocannon
60pts
Heavy Support
Leman Russ Demolisher
Lascannon
Heavy Stubber
Extra Armor
Smoke Launchers
Dozer Blades
215pts
This is supposed to be a fluffy list that hopefully will be able to win quite a few games. Its built with city fighting in mind (hence the demolisher, sentinels, MLs, and shotgun vets). I was thinking of dropping the sentinels in favor of a chimera for the vets and a few more guardsmen. Or I could forgo the chimera for gunnery sergeant harker so they get infiltrate. My thinking in the command squad is that since they have BS 4, give em the best weapons. I'm having some second thoughts about that and thinking about swapping the lascannon for an autocannon and dropping the plasma gun all together. If i made all of those switches I would give the special weapon squad with the grenade launcher 2 demos.
What do you guys think?
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"No pity. No remorse. No fear." - Black Templar battle cry
"Heroes of Armageddon! You have withstood the evil savagery of the Orks, and they have nothing left for you to fear. So raise high the black banners of vengeance - now is our time." - Commissar Yarrick
Check the guard blog: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344305.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/09 17:25:03
Subject: Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Anyone?
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"No pity. No remorse. No fear." - Black Templar battle cry
"Heroes of Armageddon! You have withstood the evil savagery of the Orks, and they have nothing left for you to fear. So raise high the black banners of vengeance - now is our time." - Commissar Yarrick
Check the guard blog: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344305.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/09 17:35:49
Subject: Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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WEll drop all your GL's. I dont care if their modeled, they are terrible. Get flamers instead (fits cityfight too.) Comand squad wise, Most people use them bare with just a mortar and vox, and hide the squad while shouting out orders.
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-7k
-3k Watch my guys die in the tens per turn!
2k with fancy lava bases!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/10 01:10:06
Subject: Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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I've heard mixed things about grenade launchers. Really for 5 points I replace a lasgun with something that has a chance at being useful. If more people tell me otherwise, I'll be sure to drop them.
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"No pity. No remorse. No fear." - Black Templar battle cry
"Heroes of Armageddon! You have withstood the evil savagery of the Orks, and they have nothing left for you to fear. So raise high the black banners of vengeance - now is our time." - Commissar Yarrick
Check the guard blog: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344305.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/11 03:41:27
Subject: Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Another shameless bump
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"No pity. No remorse. No fear." - Black Templar battle cry
"Heroes of Armageddon! You have withstood the evil savagery of the Orks, and they have nothing left for you to fear. So raise high the black banners of vengeance - now is our time." - Commissar Yarrick
Check the guard blog: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344305.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/11 04:00:46
Subject: Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Grenade Launchers not worth it at all IMO just like the old dex not worth it.
2 demos are not worth it could scatter in to your self. Demolisher is kinda weak just lascannon and stubber :(
Dont buy vets Flamers waste of there BS.
Vox Casters I still dont like IMO
all I can come up with for know.
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Hydra Dominatus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/11 05:13:05
Subject: Re:Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Tail Gunner
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Something you could try is replacing your infantry squads with veterans. take the vets with heavy weapons or assault weapons and give them camo cloaks. Also ratlings would be a great idea. Take advantage of the 3+ cover save.
Also you have an opportunity to make some urban coloured cammo netting for tanks or sentinels. I think hell hounds and/or bane wolfs are a must in city fight.
I think that special weapon squads are a waste of points because platoon command squads do the same thing, with more weapons for cheaper; or vet squads take the demo charges on top of the other 3 special weapons they can take (but this would take away the option of camo cloaks)
If you do go the route with vets you will be decent at hand to hand too with some power fists.
p.s.
Despite armoured sentinels sucking, I think they are a cool concept and would compliment the theme of the army well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/11 05:46:59
Subject: Re:Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Platoon HQ Squad w 4 GL comes to 50 points. Having a BS4 does wonders. Has a chance to take down light armor. Plus great against deep struck units that are bunched up. Yes they are Str 3 when shooting frag. But if you hit with a few of the GLs, you get to roll lots of dice to wound. Granted you need 5s against T4. You still get to roll lots of dice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/12 01:27:12
Subject: Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Well Platoon Command Squads do get BS 4, but I figure I'll lump grenade launchers in their anyways since 4 blasts might actually do something, here's a revised list:
Morynski’s Mauraders 35th Threshen, Imperial Guard City Fight Regiment
1500pts
HQ
Company Command Squad
Josef Morynski (Company Commander)
4x Veterans
1x Master of Ordinance
Lasguns
2x Plasma Guns
110pts
Elites
Sergeant Croner “The Loner” (Marbo)
65pts
Troops
Veteran Squad
Shotguns
3x Meltaguns
Demolitions
Chimera
Multi-laser
Heavy Bolter
Heavy Stubber
Dozer Blade
Extra Armor
215pts
1st Platoon
Platoon Command Squad
Platoon Commander
Bolt Pistol
4x Guardsmen
Lasguns
4x Grenade Launchers
52pts
Infantry Squad
Missile Launcher
65pts
Infantry Squad
Missile Launcher
65pts
Infantry Squad
Autocannon
60pts
Infantry Squad
Autocannon
60pts
Heavy Weapon Squad
Mortars
60pts
2nd Platoon
Platoon Command Squad
Platoon Commander
Bolt Pistol
4x Guardsmen
Lasguns
4x Grenade Launchers
52pts
Infantry Squad
Heavy Bolter
60pts
Infantry Squad
Heavy Bolter
60pts
Infantry Squad
Heavy Bolter
60pts
Infantry Squad
Heavy Bolter
60pts
Heavy Weapon Squad
Mortars
60pts
Fast Attack
Armored Sentinel
Extra Armor
Autocannon
60pts
Armored Sentinel
Extra Armor
Autocannon
60pts
Armored Sentinel
Extra Armor
Autocannon
60pts
Heavy Support
Leman Russ Demolisher
Heavy Bolter
Extra Armor
Smoke Launchers
Dozer Blades
200pts
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"No pity. No remorse. No fear." - Black Templar battle cry
"Heroes of Armageddon! You have withstood the evil savagery of the Orks, and they have nothing left for you to fear. So raise high the black banners of vengeance - now is our time." - Commissar Yarrick
Check the guard blog: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344305.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/12 05:17:10
Subject: Re:Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Tail Gunner
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I have to say that guardsmen bearing heavy bolters isn't a good thing. The first priority of the IG is to imobilize the enemy and the second is to eliminate strong points of the army. The autocannons you have in the other units would do a better job at these. I find heavy bolters are only good against nids and arguably orks (if they only have AV10 truks).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/12 17:55:17
Subject: Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Fresh-Faced New User
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das alot of dudes i dont know what every one hates GL my thought about the flamer is if your using it then that squad is probally dead to assult and if you could i would put plasma cannon sponsons on the demolisher in the old dex i bought it just for them cannons
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/13 12:20:38
Subject: Re:Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
UK
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H.bolters are good for ROF anti-troop killyness. Grenade launchers are basically either upgrade lasguns.. more str3 hits per shot.. or they are for dealing with 4+ troops along with either h.bolters/AC's. Str6 ap 4 is a good weapon, esp @ 24".
Flamers, while cool, have rubbish range.
Moo & those plasma guns may not work well together as one can pick targets anywhere & the other can only pick targets within a 12/24" bubble.
Either give the armored sentinels plasma cannons or keep the scatter laser. Autocannons work well with 'Bring it down' & 'Fire on my target'. A sentinel isnt the most ideal platform for a AC.
Who said vox casters arent worth it? Sorry? The single most useful thing in the new IG codex - Orders. The ability to re-roll GBITF isnt worth it? If you plan to combine those infantry squads often (id recommend it) then only get a couple of cox casters. Otherwise get one per squad. Also - all of the command squads do with them aswell.
Id say this list needs a little bit more punch, ideally lascannons with the infantry. If you blow up that demolisher - you effectively remove the teeth of this list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/13 13:01:55
Subject: Yet another IG list, 1500pts
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I have to admit that over the years I have come to the opinion that all of the special and heavy weapons have their uses in a guard army (well except for mortars which consistently underperform).
Therefore HB's and GL's can be quite effective (although my current personal favorite combo right now is for AC's, LC's, plasma guns, and meltaguns).
Tallarn Commander
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