BLACKHAND Vs. The Great Unclean One

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**BLACKHAND**

Thanks Graven, as for the weapon choice

A, Psilencers seem to me to be a psyker killing weapon and I wanted to have slightly more utility to my GK. Plus they have no Armour Penetration which seems strange.

B, I only have the old metal GK and have no intention as of yet to buy any of the plastics,

C, I like the idea of a unit that is being led by a guy called a Knight of the Flame charging out of a Land Raider in a storm of flamer shots

Really wish I had some Redeemer sponsons to mount on my crusader!

**vent**

Holy crap BH! Not quite sure how your thread dropped off my subscription list, but first off congratulations on your baby girl! Second, despite having a lack of time to paint and model what you've got is awesome! I love the color of your Knights, although I am partial to Gold and Red... ^_^

**BLACKHAND**

Ha, yeah your dread has given me a few thoughts on weathering my GK, just not sure yet as of all the marines out there they would be the most likely to keep their armour pristine..a decision for when I have finished the entire army I think.

**prototype_X**

hmmmm gold and red?

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GO..... EER EMPEROR

**Sageheart**

a little late, but congrats on the baby!

and the models are looking great!

**BLACKHAND**

Haha, yeah my mate who is currently painting a khornate army just rolled his eyes when he saw my Knights

@Sageheart - Thanks mate, never to late to congratulate

**BLACKHAND**

Ok so I while my Blackhands have made no progress other than an undercoat for my assault marines, I pushed through and batch painted my GK so that if I am able to finish the Dreadknight in time I will enter them in the upcoming tournament I am entered in. I feel kind of bad to ignore my Blackhands after all the wins they have gotten me but just the idea of the GK scares the bejeesus out of some of the better ranked players in my club so I really want to try them out...just got to remember to use all those Psyker powers!

So here is a pic of my (nearly) finished GK, only have the force weapon blades, the redeemer cannons and detail work on the rhino to go.

Yes I am reusing my Blackhand Libby! I mean come on, a 150 point Epistolary in termie armour with enough Grenades and psyker powers to screw up any enemy assaults I would have to be insane not to take one.

I was having no luck tracking down a fourth incinirator marine for my purifier squad so I bit the bullet and made one, luckily I had the Incinirator nozzle in my bits box the rest is a bolter grip and GS.

Hopefully when he is painted up it will be hard to tell the difference. So far the Purifier squad is my favourite, now it is running in a redeemer they will have 5 incinirator templates and 2 flamestorm templates before an assault as well as their cleansing flame attack...I am thinking of painting soot and carbon over the first third of the redeemer to represent how much flame attacks pour out of the thing

I also received a pile of white lion bitz the other day so I was able to fool around with the FW Huron model I have.

The extra Lion pelts have added a lot of movement to the model and his grey hunter followers will all get the same pelts and livery to tie them all together..more pics as that project slowly progresses.

C&C welcome as always

Cheers

BLACKHAND

**Revenent Reiko**

Nice work
how the rubber duck have you managed to get all this done with the new little BLACKHAND in the house

looking good though, and the Huron conversion is ace!
and until i read the text, i didnt even realise you had made the incinerator!

**BLACKHAND**

Thanks Reiko, I have no idea how I got so much painted either but TBH Little Blackhand is a really good sleeper..the hardest part has been keeping mum and 3 yr old occupied

**Revenent Reiko**

Your welcome

and you are a lucky, lucky man having a deep sleeping newborn!

**Gitsplitta**

Way to go man, those guys are looking great! That Huron conversion is excellent!

**Knightley**

Looking awesome man (had I known you needed a flamer I could have sent one up)

**BLACKHAND**

@Reiko - I know I am VERY lucky, sleep has never been such a precious commodity.

@Gitsplitta - Thanks as always

@Knightley - Cheers bro, thanks for the offer next time I am stuck I will give you a yell first

Speaking of begging for parts, I am currently looking for a sarcophagus from a venerable dread kit to "GK" my rifleman dread up a bit, would be willing to trade for it and will pay the postage.

In other news I played my first game with my GK yesterday..ouch!
It was a capture and control mission with a 12" deployment and though I won the initiative I was playing against a much better player who suggested I go second to get the advantage in the last round..which would have gone fine except that by going second I could not take advantage of my warp quake psyker power and ended up with a drop pod full of libby dread in my face which then nuked my strike squad. In the first round I lost my rifleman, a rhino and over half my strike squad leaving only a redeemer full of purifiers on the table. I think my biggest mistake was deepstriking my termies and dreadknight, with such a small model count I just hcould not afford to be without the firepower. I also learnt Dreadknights are just as fragile as any Independent Character when they have no backup, dont' DS them on the flank by themselves!!!

So while I was soundly beaten I am a lot wiser and have a much better idea of how to deploy and maneuver them.

Oh and purifiers are great, despite losing their redeemer before it could fire they still accounted for decent amount of points.

**inmygravenimage**

I can do you a ven dread sarco no probs; still haven't sent you the mk4 helm or tele-pack, sorry. How is newbie? Settle on a name yet? Also , Huron is stunning, and now I must redesign mine!

**BLACKHAND**

Cool Graven, Thanks again (though it feels redundant at this point with all the things you have sent me

) No need to send me the MK4 helmet though as I have scrounged one here.

Let me know and I can send you one of the White Lion cloaks as well if you want to use it on your Huron.

**inmygravenimage**

A White Lion cloak would be tremendous. I must confess that I'm fairly smitten with your Red Knights and will be doing likewise, though perhaps with more purple.

**Knightley**

Which front from a ven? there is the covered one (IE the normal dread looking front) and the face showing one (like on my ven dread and DK)

**BLACKHAND**

I am looking for one that has the exposed helmet, plan on cutting a termie helmet down to match a GK helm and use that with the sarcophagus front.

Poor man's FW Grey Knight dread

**inmygravenimage**

One of these?
http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/venerable-dreadnought-torso-cover-a-p-6024.html
Like I say, no probs, I'll post that your way.

**Knightley**

Sadly I used both of those bits on my guys, bugger. Would have been a hell of a lot cheaper to get it done locally

**perplexiti**

GK's look great Blackhand, I think that painted not many people would be able to tell the incinerators apart, looks good man.

**BLACKHAND**

@Gravenimage - Yep thats the sucka, really appreciate it.

@Knightley - No worries man I figure they would get used first when people buy the Ven kit, I know I would convert all my AOBR dreads to carry them if I bought it.

@Perplexiti - Cheers bud, and yeah the inicinirator blends into the squad fine.

Well after a bit of points re-jiggering I have found the space to fit another 5 man quad with 4 halberds which I will run with the dreadknight to intercept assaults and cast warpquake....really hated the Blood Angels habit of Deepstriking wherever the hell they wanted to go. Damn 1d6 scatter....

**joshoftheforest**

Love the color scheme

I personally am not a fan of the entirely silver army (my first army, 'Crons, were dark matte green and gold

) So it's lovely to see alternate colors!

**BLACKHAND**

@Joshoftheforest - Thanks Bud, from the mutterings on Dakka I think a lot of people will be trying a different scheme for their knights too.

Sorry the sporadic updates of late people, first week back at work after the baby was born and we are all still getting used to the new routine...not that I haven't put aside some time for modeling

And what modeling it is! I have been holding out for a BA dread to arrive so that I can begin work on my Dreadknight and nab the force weapon for my Daemon Prince and I have a few pics to show you.

So I began with the Dread Kit (no pics , use your imagination) and the legs from a sentinel kit

And using a few bits, some lasguns from a Chimera for the hip joints, a lascannon mount from a Land raider and an obliterator cannon I whipped up a hip setup that could possibly work, unlike the normal dread kit

Front

Back

The sarcophagus I cut out and lifted up, then recessed into the main body of the dread, I wanted to give the impression that the drivers body is encased in the DK with the helmet coming out of the top.

Here is the first test fitting, he has the proportions I was looking for but I am not sure about the look of the chest and midriff.

And this is my version of a Heavy Psycannon, I really feel the one that comes with a Dreadknight is kinda measly, so i mounted the barrel of the DK Psycannon on the Frag cannon form the furioso kit.

And here is where I am at the moment, am having to pause due to babysitting duty so figured I would post up what I have so far

So yeah, thats the beginnings of my version of a Dreadknight, let me know what you think!

Cheers,

BLACKHAND

**whalemusic360**

I think your going to have to do some MAJOR renovation on the torso to make it more then just a tall Dreadnought in peoples minds. Arms need to be elongated to match the legs. Obviously lots of work ahead, but I have little doubt you can pull it off though, we know you like to jump in head first.

**Gitsplitta**

Very interesting BLACKHAND, I like the gun a lot. I think the midriff needs more beefing up, which I suspect is already in the pipes...

**BLACKHAND**

Im not so worried that it resembles a dread, one of the main problems with the Dreadknight kit IMHO is that it doesn't look anything like imperial or spacemarine tech. TBH I was looking to create something very similar to MajorTom's upscaled dread just with more of a lower torso to give space for a driver.

Having said all that I do want to build a chest/belly plate to get rid of the ramshackle look it has now.

I also plan on adding a ball and socket joint to the shoulder to give the arms some extra movement and have a couple of extra sentinel legs that can be pressed into service for arms....haven't decided yet where to go with them.

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@Gitsplitta - Thanks, the gun is my favourite bit so far as well, the rules just suggest a much bigger gun then the one that comes with the kit. I am looking at putting a cowling over the hip joint and adding another set of hydraulics connecting them to the torso.

One worry is that the legs are too weedy....anyone else think so?

**whalemusic360**

BLACKHAND wrote:Im not so worried that it resembles a dread, one of the main problems with the Dreadknight kit IMHO is that it doesn't look anything like imperial or spacemarine tech. TBH I was looking to create something very similar to MajorTom's upscaled dread just with more of a lower torso to give space for a driver.

Hits_the_Spots?

**joshoftheforest**

Hmmmm... I like it a lot... my biggest thing is the groin area... I feel like it needs to be bulked up a bit

**BLACKHAND**

Argh, yes sorry Hits_the_spots Dread, thanks WM

And yeah Josh I reckon an armour plate may be needed