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King, did you not read my earlier post?

The cover save given by the KFF is a 5+ to all units.

Vehicles are units that take cover saves "exactly like a non-vehicle model would do against a wound"

What would a non-vehicle model need to save a wound while protected by the KFF? (Hint: The answer is a 5+)

nosferatu1001 wrote:DR - yes, yes, we've seen your posts before.

It does not alter that no save is specified for the wargear specifically for the "obscured" part.

Look back over the last 3 years on this forum, noone will ever agree that RAW is one way or the other - but luckily we have, for once, clear RAI

It specifies the obscured part, since the save given to all units by the KFF is a 5+ thus it specifies a 5+ cover save for all units within range. This trumps the 4+ save given in the brb for obscured.

RaI they play it as a 4+, but RAW its a 5+.

We all know they need to fire their rules guys and hire ones that will be clear and precise.

And yet I dont agree with your conclusions, for the reasons stated in threads for the last 3 years

Reasons that need not change unless GW decide to change the rules again....

You not agreeing, does not change what the BRB says about the RaW.

In this case RaW is a 5+ for all units.

Vehicles are in fact units and only benefit from a 5+ cover save, for the rules and pages I have cited.

of course if I missed anything i will need page numbers so I can look that up.

And, has been pointed out - the rules do not specify the save that specifically vehicles take. Thus it is wargear not specifying a save and it defaults to a 4+

You see the two as joined. I, and 90%+ of people here dont. THere is simply no point arguing any further - there is, literally, nothing you are saying that hasnt been said previously. Nothing.

I think we've gone around in circles enough for now. Time to give this one a rest.