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scenery is hard plastic.

Frenzy is mine cart it'll be ace.

expect the girl sponsor to be available separately knowing them.

i love those aliens holy crap. so glad i threw in on the 140. i'll ride it out and drop it on the last day if i'm not happy, but so far looks good.

Pausing that video unveils all kinds of fun nonsense we'll get to play with.

Seems more robots, frog men, SPHYR TEAM, random new alien MVPs...

Gimme a deadzone deck at some point and I swear we'll be having Alien Streetfighter II: Deadzone Edition going on in my house.

Alien Streetfighter II sounds amazing! This gent has screencaps of the video, some great looking stuff:

http://kaboum.fr/wondercat/?q=content/dreadball-xtreme-sneak-peek&language=en

I still don't really get what Sponsors do to be honest.

It seems they made MvPs a bit more integrated into the game than in DreadBall original, which would be nice, but sponsors are just minis standing on the side of the pitch?

In Alien Streetfighter II: Deadzone Edition, sponsors are allowed to mix it up with the fighters.

Who hasn't wanted to play a fighting game with fat guys and old turtles mixing it up with criminals, evil trees, killer robots, and scantily clad alien ladies?

Well, that was quick. I skeptically pledged for $140 with no interest in the game, planning to dump it for a $25 pledge later to pick up a few items for Deadzone. So far, everything they've added on has appealed, and I'm now considering downgrading my Mars Attacks and Deadzone 2nd Survey purchases to fit my $140 Dreadball Extreme pledge in.

Either I'm becoming more of a weak-willed addict, or this is an exceptionally strong launch. And from the looks of things, there is already a fair amount on offer that should be usable in Deadzone with minimum conversion.

Hmm, don't know if I'm best pleased by the idea of a $350-$400 "pledge now for possible future stuff perhaps" level! Especially with a $50 EB-Non-EB difference.

At least Mars Attacks only did that 1) once a decent amount of stuff had already been added to the Kickstarter, and 2) used credit to make the difference between levels very clear. Also, $400 would make this one of the most expensive boardgames outside of....Shadows of Brimstone, which went even more bonkers!

Everything shown so far does look good though - will take some time to properly digest.

Frog Team Concept. That is all.

 Black Nexus wrote:
scenery is hard plastic.

For now

it's straight line like the enforcers and peacekeepers and deadzone scenery.

Asterians and FF were always resin plastic. there was a possibility to do them in hard plastic, it didn't work, so they put them back into resin plastic, as they were always intended.

Okay, back home and... holy hell this thing is flying.

This is going to beat deadzone at this rate.

OP updates incoming shortly!

Hmm. Guess that was New Kickstarter euphoria kicking in.

I'll stay at $140 for now and see what happens. I don't really need either of the two core set teams, so they'd have to add a lot. On the positive side, it doesn't look like I'll have any trouble getting at least a $25 minimum purchase for free shipping, as it's only the first day and the $15 free Agents already look promising for Deadzone use.

Good catches on the Frenzy level pledge inflation, guys; it's obviously been contributing to DB EX's fast-rising first day total, which looks set to beat all of Mantic's previous campaigns. It is going to be interesting seeing what Mantic has planned to keep Frenzy levels of interest and investment.

love the new orc mvp. very chatacterful.

 Vermonter wrote:
Hmm. Guess that was New Kickstarter euphoria kicking in.

I'll stay at $140 for now and see what happens. I don't really need either of the two core set teams, so they'd have to add a lot. On the positive side, it doesn't look like I'll have any trouble getting at least a $25 minimum purchase for free shipping, as it's only the first day and the $15 free Agents already look promising for Deadzone use.

Good catches on the Frenzy level pledge inflation, guys; it's obviously been contributing to DB EX's fast-rising first day total, which looks set to beat all of Mantic's previous campaigns. It is going to be interesting seeing what Mantic has planned to keep Frenzy levels of interest and investment.

$375 is going to require at least 300 minis, really. There are currently 50, which leaves a lot of room for improvement.

I'd expect full teams of 16 for each of the 12 teams, really. 16x12 = 192 minis which should get people most of the way there.

I hope they do a Deadzone style get a team of your choice thing for Rampage.

Well, I guess they will want to bring on as many backers as possible first, before trying to tempt them to pledge higher.

Original DreadBall had an average pledge level of US$ 287,- per backer
DreadBall Xtreme is currently sitting at US$ 196.- per backer average

Still room to squeeze people.

This start has destroyed any idea of Kickstarter fatigue amongst Mantic fans. It also seems to show that a lot of the complaints we have seen on the delivery of previous projects, however genuine, may well have been the exception rather than the rule.

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
This start has destroyed any idea of Kickstarter fatigue amongst Mantic fans. It also seems to show that a lot of the complaints we have seen on the delivery of previous projects, however genuine, may well have been the exception rather than the rule.

As if we didn't know that from a decade of constantly complaining, yet loyally buying GW customers?

I see Mantic went with the shorter 24 day campaign, hopefully it works for them cause I'd hate to see it go backwards.

Managed to get home in time to get a decent earlybird to park myself on while waiting to see how everything goes - not having backed the original DB project means I don't have a lot of the Db stuff in the way already, but also means I'm not attached to the idea just yet.

So Deadzoners can now get their Chovar in plastic (see the current Dreadball update.)

The Jetari drones are looking like good Ripper suit substitutes to me, also.

I hope these miniatures, notably the Chovar, will be usable in "regular" DreadBall too? Do they have different stats?

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
This start has destroyed any idea of Kickstarter fatigue amongst Mantic fans. It also seems to show that a lot of the complaints we have seen on the delivery of previous projects, however genuine, may well have been the exception rather than the rule.

Or, it just shows that the Early Bird model still has people hooked... whether it can sustain it's pace is a totally different matter.

I think this may do about as well as Deadzone / Mars Attacks, though- I see no reason to think otherwise. Where it ends up doesn't really matter to me... what matters to me is if it's a quality product this time. And honestly, that remains to be seen... which is why I am not one of those pledging.

My half restic, half metal Dreadball team from their first KS pretty much guaranteed that I'd have to wait and see what they deliver here. If it's awesome, I don't mind paying more at retail to get it... but I'm not going to pay for it sight unseen (or even previewed).

I did pledge for a few Mars Attacks add-ons and that is my current "test run" for Mantic... if they hit a homerun with those, then that will be a step in the right direction. But so far, I think my best experience with them was waiting until all of their KoW kickstarter had shipped, and buying items from people who got more than they needed. I see no reason to change that strategy just to save a few bucks, and possibly be very disappointed by the end product like with the first Dreadball campaign.

I get the impression that they're going to try and add value to Frenzy through non-model stuff too. DBX has a ton of extra areas for expansion/customisation (which is presumably one of the reasons for it existing), so off the top of my head you could have things like:

- premium resin crates/strike posts
- metal or resin trophies
- MDF & Acrylic (+possibly cardboard) versions of the basic DBX pitch.
- The same for the modular versions.
- Mousemat version of the basic DB pitch.
- Hard plastic scenery, possibly modular, for the pitch and/or surrounds.
- Acrylic tokens & 'custom' dice for each team.
...all without really expanding the game beyond the core box.

I reckon they could get that to chew up a fair chunk of that $225 difference! And since I'm less interested in 'extras' in that form, it's a reason why I'll be very cautious of Frenzy initially.

True RiTides, the thing is if you do not back the KS and go the retail route there is a fair chance that you will get the initial retail releases before a lot of backers. There are certainly people with multiple "early birds" that they will drop too.

Well, they should have the cash to produce better quality.

Lots of fancy scenery and such aside, DreadBall at 200.000 USD was warming up for Teams 5 to 8 and had the Season 2 book locked in.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/dreadball-the-futuristic-sports-game/posts/305104

Xtreme is nearly at that level and still only has 2 teams.

I guess 200,000 - the next two teams announced - is when we'll start seeing things not getting added free to the Rampage pledge?

Probably will end up with 2-4 free minis or something for Rampage since you can buy minis from any team.

Well, I hope Rampage will get some.

If they have 12 teams (pre-)planned, it could go

Fury (e.g. Boxed Set) = 2 teams

Rage = 4 Teams
Rampage = 8 Teams
Frenzy = 12 Teams

??

I don't play dreadball yet, so this may be a stupid question.

Without the refs there, wouldn't the normal Asterian team suck? I thought one of their 'things' was taking dives so the refs ejected opposing players?

I wasn't worried about it until I saw how the new Asterian team is all female. If I wanted to play with females, I wouldn't be playing wargames.

How many players do you actually need for an average game?

I thought it was 8, no?

I would imagine most games we play are going to be one offs for the time being.

I'm wondering if Extreme will have a kick off style set of rules, just to get things rolling and ease new players into the game.