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 dogma wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

1. You still have listed your vast area of expertise on the subject. Why is that?

2. So its your self appointed task to "educate dem heathens more gooder." Have you considered a hobby? I like blowing things up, wiener dog belly rubs, and an intensive belly expansion program.

I'm surprised you didn't leverage your nominal, "He's not American!" argument.

No we save that for special occasions, when we need to set the warp engines to warp speed: Freedom!

 Frazzled wrote:
1. You still have listed your vast area of expertise on the subject. Why is that?

I have posted it. Here you go once more...

"I don't have a deep knowledge of business. I have a specific specialisation, management accounting. This means I know how cost accounting and transfer accounting work, and can construct and improve business processes, particularly within the not-for-profit and education sectors in which I have most of my experience. On top of that there's a bunch of other stuff I do just because it's stuff every accountant does (management reports, cashflow management etc), but there's all kinds of accounting stuff on which I'd be way out of my depth, like the really pedantic, complex end of International Standards, auditing (I can never remember whether the green or the red pen is good)."

Maybe we need to have Legoburner add a CV function to Dakka...

Clearly non-experts only agree with experts except when those experts disagree with them, so non-experts who disagree with them should just go become experts who agree with them.

Besides, shut up.

 Manchu wrote:
Wait what in the name of --

Ohhhhhh ... Richmond, CA.

Lol . I had that reaction, too.

 LordofHats wrote:
Clearly non-experts only agree with experts except when those experts disagree with them, so non-experts who disagree with them should just go become experts who agree with them.

Besides, shut up.

Just to clarify, I don't want to imply that only experts can have an opinion, or that everyone else must bow down and listen to them. Obviously that's bs.

It's just that fraz asked so I told him exactly where I do know a bit, and where I don't.


The issue to me, and while this thread is a perfect example it's far from alone, is that there's simply way too many people happy to put up bs arguments rather than accept the other side has even one decent point. The point about calculating the exact value of a janitor is a classic example, is almost completely irrelevant to the minimum wage debate. But instead of just conceding that minor point and moving on with the important parts of his argument, he just dug deeper and deeper, making up more and more stuff, all in order to avoid saying ‘on that minor point you are correct’.

It’s that attitude, that absolute steadfast refusal to ever accept one single thing the other side is saying, that makes have the exact same debate on minimum wage over and over again.

 sebster wrote:


Just to clarify, I don't want to imply that only experts can have an opinion, or that everyone else must bow down and listen to them. Obviously that's bs.

I'm merely mocking this "well how do you know so much about it" attitude (not yours, but the one that always pops up in these threads). I might suggest people read a book now and then, but this is the internet forum. Besmirching someone for being a non-expert is just a veiled attack that means "you disagree with me and it makes me question you're opinion."

Whether someone is an expert or not is meaningless because all the people mocking 'non-experts' care about is if the person on the other side of the screen agrees with them. Their actual knowledge on a subject is meaningless except as an attack/shield. EDIT: And of course if the person you disagree with is an expert, well they're just being an elitist douche in which case the previous two sentences are still true.