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malfred wrote:The jacks are probably still sprue plastic?
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Do we know if the Crucible box is going to be in plastic like the others, or will it go straight to resin and metal like most current releases?
The details are listed in those links I posted earlier. Basically, everything is metal/resin except for the heavy warjack (Toro/Suppressor/Vindicator), which is listed as plastic (most likely sprue plastic?).
It's funny to think that there was a time that PP thought having everything in metal was not only better, but they'd gloat about 'Full Metal Fantasy'. I'm glad they've seen the error in that, and moved on to doing sprue plastic, and incorporating resin into their models. I actually really like the combination of resin and metal in their figures. It gives them a fair bit of weight, but they're not too heavy, like a completely metal model. I don't know how many times my old Khador warjacks, and space marine drednaughts used to somersault and backflip off of uneven terrain.
RiTides wrote: That's the thing, though - GW updates frequently now, too...
Including for new model development?
They are for the plastic sisters. And we've known about stuff like the new titan game, Rogue Trader, the Death Guard, and the new editions to their games a decent amount of time prior to release. Not everything gets touched on, but I think they do an amazing job of balancing the whole thing, considering how much stuff they put out. I don't think that PP has slipped at all, I just don't think they produce the same amount of content. That being said, I've noticed a real distaste for Mk3 from a lot of players. Where as I initially just wrote it off as 'the new ruleset blues', it seems to have continued, and the sort of 'off brand' Grymkin didn't help. I personally think Mk3 is a big improvement over Mk2, and have enjoyed it quite a bit. The Crucible seem to really fit that Warmachine aesthetic perfectly as well, so fans should like that.
AduroT wrote: Metal used to be a lot cheaper, and I still hear people say they prefer metal over plastic because of the heft, so at the time it was a fine marketing approach.
PP had missteps with their initial plastic/resin offerings which made me long for the days of "Full Metal Fantasy". I built a Circle army for a friend a few years ago and the resin/plastic/restic or whatever was awful to work with.
Their pvc has had problems since day one. Not like, finecast bad, but never as good as one would want and frequently delayed. The resin I don’t really recall any particular widespread issues with, and their styrene has mostly been good with the exception of the Hydra, though not up to GW or Wyrd’s level.
Good to hear gw is doing right by sisters. Man that was a
long time coming.
The resin stuff is kind of annoying to work with when they have
the vents in places that are difficult to fix or if the mold is way
off alignment or something. It's also really brittle, and it pays to
not power your way through with snips lest stray appendages
Outside of losing their collective minds there for a bit in the middle there's some cool stuff in there. Nothing in MonPoc was super noteworthy, but a lot of conformation that we're getting the whole game eventually. Infernals are a great addition long overdue. They're not in the least bit my thing, but they're a thing that's been needed in the game for a while. Not much was announced for my existing factions, but I'm excite to see Skorne get their Immortals fleshed out. It's such an awesome army that's always needed some serious attention to live up to its potential.
Infernals have been wanted for ages, it will be great to see how they do them! Shame Everblight didn't get anything new, but then again having just had a wave of new stuff its likely not the Blighted turn this time around
Overread wrote: Infernals have been wanted for ages, it will be great to see how they do them!
There are/were IKRPG minis for a couple Infernal models going way back (sorcerer, warrior, assassin and... curator? with a little beastie). The design is... different? Which I can sort of appreciate, but they're lanky, scrawny things, that don't really look threatening at all.
The concept is really interesting (and there's been a lot of hints over the years- that this is the debt coming due, the souls owed by Thamar/ humanity as a whole for the gift of magic to push out the Orgoth, and their warjack/beast equivalents are made up of an amalgamation of souls they've taken from people who have signed contracts, and those sacrificed to them to fulfill contracts).
Personally, despite mark 3 (and subsequent shenanigans against the fanbase) utterly killing my interest in the game, I want to see what they do with them. If they use the old IK sculpts as a baseline, though, I don't see it being engaging from a modelling standpoint.
You can see the old Infernal models here:
So, yeah. Hope they move away from that, as the curator is the best of a bad lot.
As far as the Fires of War video goes... that is the most boring and uninteresting narrator I've heard in a while. And the Keynote was...a little sad? The audience didn't seem really engaged (or very big), at least not compared to past years I've seen.
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Overread wrote: Infernals have been wanted for ages, it will be great to see how they do them! Shame Everblight didn't get anything new, but then again having just had a wave of new stuff its likely not the Blighted turn this time around
Figures they'd finally do Infernals several years after I stopped being one.
The video said Battle Engine so I guess halfway between a heavy and gargantuan?
Fafnir wrote: Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.