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Not Online!!! wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
And this is preciscly the reason why i hate stratagems, suddendly half your army isn't equal anymore.
Also lol flexibility to recycle and damage being flexible and not handleable via upgrades. Counter point, you could allow Poxes or plague zombies to recycle more when killing in melee and you could make them more killy via a varying upgrade for specific plague strains...

Any upgrade would just be an evaluation of "is this worth the points?" three weeks after the codex is released and then never thought about again. A well designed stratagem needs to be considered every game.

Whether stratagems are good for 40k or is off topic anyways, stratagems are here to stay.

Is it really an consideration when you can just decided to Yeet a bunch of termites for exemple?

Yes? You kind of need to start moving towards those terminators two turns before you can use that stratagem. It's not like terminators are suddenly going to appear somewhere in front of you out of nowhere.

Also, CP are a very limited and very important resource for DG. If I spend 1 CP to nuke a terminator, I can't blow up a vehicle, fire overwatch, interrupt combat, kill a vehicle, grenade myself out of melee or heal a daemon engine.

 Eldarsif wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
And this is preciscly the reason why i hate stratagems, suddendly half your army isn't equal anymore.
Also lol flexibility to recycle and damage being flexible and not handleable via upgrades. Counter point, you could allow Poxes or plague zombies to recycle more when killing in melee and you could make them more killy via a varying upgrade for specific plague strains...

Any upgrade would just be an evaluation of "is this worth the points?" three weeks after the codex is released and then never thought about again. A well designed stratagem needs to be considered every game.

Whether stratagems are good for 40k or is off topic anyways, stratagems are here to stay.

Is it really an consideration when you can just decided to Yeet a bunch of termites for exemple?

You have to be clearer. Terminators or Termagants? Or are you talking about literal termites? I am honestly wondering.

Terminators. Termagants would be a waste of CP ..

So you now kick the goal posts to CC only, but then essentially make a list of everything that can butcher the walkers in combat?
This is great, you are managing to argue both sides of the point.

If your army contains literally 0 shooting then you will be butchered by nearly every army, it is just pure stupidity.

Even if you have only CC units, you can still easily kill the walkers.
Just keep out of the small debuff bubbles from characters around them.


This argument has just got to the point its bordering on stupidity though.
The odds of this situation happening are pretty much 0, and a complete 0 against any player with an IQ above 10.

20 weak models are not difficult to kill.
They must walk across the board, keeping their unit as intact as possible.

If someone let's that walk in to them, its known as stupidity, not an over powered tactic.

At this stage I'm going to claim that bolters are better than lascannons as I could only ever roll 6s.
Odds of it happening are pretty much none, but its the same basis for a point.

No need to insult. Just let the point stand on its own.