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2009/06/12 17:46:16
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
I mean think of it... 2005, 2 years after Judgement Day. Gotham is a smoking crater, survivors huddle on the fringes and now the machines are coming. The only hope is one man, an ordinary man, in a cave outside the city...
All the other heroes are either dead in the nuclear war or this is an alternate world where Batman and the lesser Bats are the only superhumans/costumed humans.
I'd buy that. I'd but it in a heartbeat.
Alternate idea... Terminator vs Wolverine, of course that's pretty much what Days of Future Past was. And I think it came out first.
OH! How about Terminator vs. Governor Swartzanegger? Yeah, the Governor organizes resistance early on so in mocking salute to him Skynet makes his face the face of the first T-800!
2009/06/12 17:48:37
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.
2009/06/12 17:57:15
Subject: Re:Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.
2009/06/12 17:59:59
Subject: Re:Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
Why was Hitler casting spells, and how did Stalin fight his way through his elite bodyguards?
This smells of communist shenanigans to me.
People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.
2009/06/12 18:54:04
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
I want to see Terminator vs. Batman vs. Alien vs. a time travelling Captain Chekov vs. the ghost of Robert E Lee.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2009/06/12 19:01:57
Subject: Re:Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
Yuk. That horrible fad for franchise crossover comics was a revolting plague that thankfully was eventualy vanquished.
I can see the point in certian crossovers where a common ground was shared. For example Alien vs Predator worked well for the comics and games (lets not mention the films) and crossovers between different Superhores generally worked well as well.
When they start crossing these over however it got stupid.
Batman vs Predator?
Batman vs Jude Dread?
Batman vs Dracula?
Batman vs Aliens?
These were all real comics. At some point in the 90's ideas where so thin on the ground people were tripping over themselves to get Batman to fight anyone they could think of. A real low point for comics.
Superman vs Aliens and Robocop vs Terminator were another 2 shocking and Lazy ideas.
These however are not the worse example of this naff fad. That must belong to the abomiation below. Whoever honestly thought that this was a good idea deserves to be shot. Several times. Seriously what the hell do these 2 franchises have in common?
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"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!"
2009/06/12 21:54:12
Subject: Re:Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
In one of those odd twists of fate I'm actually 40 pages or so into the above book. They've just thrown a surprise party for Worf when he returns to the Enterprise and....
in my defense it was a gift, sent to me as a joke...well... threat perhaps. It's actually a sequel to a comic book that, according to the LAWS OF GEEKDOM I now have to hunt down and buy.
Batman vs. Predator ( the first one anyway) was fething awesome, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2009/06/12 22:29:53
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
At first, I thought that cover was a photoshop joke. That makes me sad on multiple levels. Why doesn't Wolverine just kill everyone? Why doesn't Picard nuke the site from orbit - er, I mean, phaser it from orbit?
In the dark future, there are skulls for everyone. But only the bad guys get spikes. And rivets for all, apparently welding was lost in the Dark Age of Technology. -from C.Borer
2009/06/12 22:45:09
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
No it's very real I'm afraid. I was lent this by a friend who was a massive Star Trek fan, I made it about 40 pages in before giving up. Truly, truly awful.
Ketara wrote:That Hitler v Stalin comic was epic. They should bring it out here.
Didn't Hitler and Stalin had a bit of scrap in real life too, about 68 years ago? Im willing to bet the body count was higher in the real fight!
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"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!"
2009/06/13 01:30:50
Subject: Re:Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
Sorry I can't agree, they just seem to be an extension of that old playground argument of 'who would win in a fight fictional character A or fictional character B'. It an excuse for spectacular fights with minimum storytelling.
It only really works when the characters have some common ground whilst being different enough to make the conflict both logical and compelling. AvP works because of the similar premise of the 2 franchises whilst at the same time the 2 creatures are almost polar opposites of each other, one being primitive and brutal the other being high tech and cunning. As a result it works nicely.
Its much the same with certain Superhero crossovers. Batman and Superman not only exist in the same universe and have similar core concepts but are opposites in almost everyway. Therefore the crossover works.
But Batman vs Predator? Batman vs Dracula? Sorry but the whole concept is lame beyond belief. The 2 characters have no common ground and as a result the whole thing just feels like a fanboi 'my dad could beat up your dad' affair. A bad excuse to get some life out of 2 franchises on the cheap.
"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!"
2009/06/13 04:45:46
Subject: Re:Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
I've just found about this on-line. I mean come on this is just a ludicrous concept, why not throw in a couple of Jedi Knights and Optimus Prime whilst your at it? Seeing as plausible canon clearly isn't high on the writers list of priorities.
"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!"
2009/06/14 12:56:24
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
The night broods... like some sort of brooding night.
And above the night, sort of off to the left dwells...
THE BATMAN!
"All is quiet in the brooding night in Gotham City, but I, THE BATMAN, know it cannot last."
Suddenly! Elsewhere!
There is a flash of light and a HAWT NEEKID CHICK appears.
"Oh noes! I must run now!
She runs HOTTLY AND NAKEDLY through the brooding night stopping only to steal hot clothes from a handy clothes line.
And behind her...
Another flash of light and an AWESOME NAKED DUDE appears in a totally non-gay way.
And like some bikers hassle him and he totally kills them and steals their jackets and shades.
And then he's chasing the chick and Batman is all like
"Come with me if you want to live!"
To be continued????
Automatically Appended Next Post: Big chase through a junk yard.
Batman says "don't worry I will defeat this Austrian bodybuilder-looking biker dude who is really awesome in a totally non-gay way with my superpower of punching!"
"OW!"
Then the Terminator totally beats up Batman, there's like blood and teeth flying and all that. Batman thinks 'never before has my superpower of punching failed me, can I be losing my powers in the face of this awesome specimin of manhood?'
Suddenly the Terminator flies up in the air and Batman is all WTF?!?
The HNC used the junkyard magnet to pick him up and drop him in the car crusher.
Batman "how can this be when he is a flesh and blood and not made of metal!"
HNC "Skynet, Terminators, time travel blah, blah, blah"
Batman "Time travel? Killer robots? That sounds more like a bad movie than real life!"
HNC "This from a man who dresses like a comic book character?"
(note this is called meta humor, it is very clever, it probably went over your heads though)
HNC "Besides your buddy Red Tornado is a robot, and Booster Gold is from the future so who are you to talk?"
Batman "Sssh, you didn't pay for the rights to any of those so stop talking about them. Yeah sure logically at this point I should call the Watchtower and get Superman here to wrap this but then we can't pad this out to 6 issues for the trade so let's keep this on the downlow. Besides, who would pay $4 an issue for Red Tornado vs Terminator?"
Suddenly dents appear in the car crusher, FROM THE INSIDE!
Terminator "I'll be back!"
Batman, quick! to the Batmobile!
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2009/06/14 18:55:12
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
There is a Superman vs. Terminator comic. I haven't read it, but Linkara (who is basically the angry video game nerd of comic books) will have a review of it up some time next week.
Kyoto, I know you're a big comic geek, you might wanna check out some of his video reviews.
I would like to post the link for the Terminator vs. Robocop video, but youtube isn't working tonight.
2009/06/16 01:32:38
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
LuciusAR wrote:Sorry I can't agree, they just seem to be an extension of that old playground argument of 'who would win in a fight fictional character A or fictional character B'. It an excuse for spectacular fights with minimum storytelling.
Yes. Though whether that is a bad thing can be debated at length.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
2009/06/16 15:02:24
Subject: Re:Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
The dark shroud of night hangs over Gotham City like some sort of dark shroud.
SUDDENLY!
The shroud is cut by a dark blade on a shaft of red fire!
THE BATMOBILE!
But the mobile of the Bat is not alone!
"Great scott!" The Batman grimly ejaculates. "He must have found a suped up motorcycle that for some reason was sitting fully fueled in the junk yard." The Batman grimly squints into his bat-shaped rearview mirror. "And how come he looks like the governor of California?"
HNC - "It was the governor's efforts to develop clean fuel cells that allowed skynet to power its terminators. Skynet modeled them after him in thanks."
"Hh." Batman muttered grimly. "So what's your name anyway?"
"Harriette Nancy Carrington, but everyone calls me HNC."
"Well HNC luckily I have a trick or two up my bat-sleeve."
Batman drops and oil slick and the terminator's bike skids out but the terminator just jumps off and runs.
"Hh." Batman muttered grimly and hit another button.
The rocket afterburner triggers the oil and the terminator is now on fire! But it keeps coming.
HNC - "Don't you see! It never tires, it never gives up! You can't reason with it! You can't hurt it! it's a man of steel!"
"Hh." Batman mutters grimly. "Lucky I know something about men of steel."
Batman wrenches the steering wheel and the Batmobile does a 180, now it faces the terminator!
HNC "Are you crazy!? He'll terminate us!"
"Hh." The Batman muttered grimly and hit the gas charging towards the terminator.
The still-burning terminator stops and faces the Batmobile. He smiles.
The Batmobile rockets forward, the Terminator charges but at the last second the Batman grimly pushes another button and the Batmobile jumps over the Terminator's head, flies off the highway, lands in a street and speeds away.
HNC "wow! you're so awesome and manly!"
The Batman "Yes, yes I am. Now tell me why he's after you?"
"He's not after me. In my time the Gotham resistance is led by a legendary guerilla fighter known as the Hunter. He's here to terminate the Hunter's father."
"Who is he?"
HNC looks meaningfully into Batman slitted eyes.
"He's you. Bruce Wayne."
DUN-DUN-DUN!!!!
2009/06/16 15:08:51
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
This thread needs less Arnold and Batman and more Jessica Alba. If she was in the movie, I'd totally go see it.
In the dark future, there are skulls for everyone. But only the bad guys get spikes. And rivets for all, apparently welding was lost in the Dark Age of Technology. -from C.Borer
2009/06/16 15:16:04
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
(Looks over shoulder to confirm She Who Must Be Obeyed is not standing over the Frazzled with a meat cleaver)
Coast is clear. Yes, less ahnold, more Alba and this thread is a hit!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2009/06/16 15:16:18
Subject: Why has no one done Batman Vs Terminator?
(thanks, I learned how to write comic by carefully studying the works of Todd MacFarlaine)
"WHAT YOU SAY!?!" The Dark Knight Detective ejaculated loudly.
"For although I, the Batman, an extremely heterosexual and not gay and have enjoyed the sexy time with literally hundreds of women - including but not limited to Talia, Catwoman, Poison Ivy (got a nasty rash), Harley Quinn, both Batgirls, both Batwomen (yes the lesbian too), Starfire (don't tell Dick), Huntress (not my daughter, the other one), the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, Supergirl (don't tell Clark), both Wonder Girls (individually and together) and of course Wonder Woman - I, the Batman, have always used protection!"
HNC - (visibly impressed) "Well maybe he hasn't been concieved yet, I don't know! But I do know the Terminator is after you and will not stop until you are dead!"
"Hh." The Batman muttered grimly. "We'd better get you naked then." He added manfully. HNC - Huh?
"Examine you. For injury."
"Oh right. Where are we going?"
"Secret." Batman manfully takes out a spray can of Batsleep.
And soon HNC is sleeping like a baby.
Meanwhile... elsewhere... the gloomy mists of night hand over city like gloomy mists...
"Hey. we're muggers! We like to mug! We will mug to you!"
Terminator - "feth you donkey-cave."
Terminator totally kills the muggers.
Dying mugger "darnit, I knew we should have hit the nuclear power plant instead."
Terminator - Hmm.
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-to many points to bother to count.
