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I really would like to get into these games - even trading my 40k for them but you get a whole lot more for your money with 40k especially against BFG, Epic - i don't know, but there's no nice starter box unless you get something retro on flidbay - your thoughts??

BFG is a lot cheaper to get into, especially Chaos and Imperials, since they still have plastic cruisers available.

Epic might be being killed, so I'd hold off on that. But it might be getting relaunched, too. Forge World pulled a few Epic items, maybe it is being killed, maybe they are going plastic. I'm hoping plastic.

BFG is an awesome game system, me nd my mates love it, but i still ike 40k aswell as it has a completely different feel to it.

I've nevere been sure of epic tbh so i couldnt really help.

But BFG is not incredibly expensive as you really only want 1500 point games to keep them short enough which in some cases is not a huge amount of ships.

BFG is a great game, especially for the money.

Even all-metal fleets like Orks & Eldar are quite reasonable, especially off eBay or other secondhand sources.

I don't know BFG so i just assumed that you needed many large ships and smaller craft (which cost a bomb altogether) but am i right i thinking that you don't need that much??

Educate me please - i'm really interested in it.

I want to build a tyranid fleet from tyranid left over bits xD
but i dunno the rules to even consider what they should look like .

That would be cheap and fun!

nah, a standard 1500 point fleet on average will be 3-6 cruisers, 0-2 battle cruisers and 0-1 battleship, then a few escorts to hash it out.

i LOVE bfg, i dont get to play nearly enough as i would like to. i have 2 fleets, and ork fleet and an adeptus mechanicus fleet.

what fleet are you looking into?

Ok lets say imperial, what would i need for a healthy armarda to have good (not short) battles??


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Where can i get these plastic kits from??

I have nearly all-Cruiser Imperial and Chaos fleets, and they were very reasonable to acquire. I have an escort-heavy Eldar fleet, acquired secondhand or discount.

I haven't bought BFG in a while, so I don't know how much worse pricing may have gotten. But it shouldn't be too bad, especially if you focus on the plastic Cruisers.

Well everything you need is on GW suprisingly

if you go to the GW resources they have all the rules and ships lists etc. I'm not sure but i think you have to order the kits from the website, im not entriely sure if they sell them instore atm.

BFG would break me as the only race I'd play is Tau and the only good looking Tau ships come from forgeworld.

I think i might get the rulebook, would prefer the BFG oop game but i saw one go for over £50 - $85?? way too much

athba wrote:I think i might get the rulebook, would prefer the BFG oop game but i saw one go for over £50 - $85?? way too much

Rulebook is a free Download off the GW site

oh.. thanks, but there is a fleet rule book too - don't think thats free. Does GW making things free mean the gradual run down then deletion of this game??

athba wrote:oh.. thanks, but there is a fleet rule book too - don't think thats free. Does GW making things free mean the gradual run down then deletion of this game??

No, the specialist Games (Inquisitor, BFG, Bloodbowl etc) have been free downloads for years now.

Click me for The BFG rules and a ton of other PDF's

oh, ok = thanks


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Still leaves me trying to get an armarda together

car boot sales best place to go

Ok,
- I have the rules
- I have the Dakka backing that its a great game
- I know there are plastic's out there

.......

Who is going to trade me the minis / ships??

athba wrote:Ok,
- I have the rules
- I have the Dakka backing that its a great game
- I know there are plastic's out there

.......

Who is going to trade me the minis / ships??

eBay

Have you checked ebay uk prices??

I wanna play BFG but i cant afford it:-(

Can you list your minis available for trade?

Yeah - AOBR Orks coming out of my ears!! few SM's few DE NIB

To be fair you can get a couple of cruiser for about 10 - 15 quid off workshops, if you get say 2 - 3 boxes of this, 1 Battleship about £25 quid, couple of Dauntless Light Cruisers (cant remember the prices for these) and 2 blisters of Cobra Class Escorts (the little torpedo boats) thats an entire fleet for round about £75 - £85 (and thats from Workshop!) not bad really for what will end being around a 1500pt fleet which is more than enough to begin playing gothic, use that as a price guide and if things go for too much on FeeBay don't bother buying it your paying too much.

Thanks 99M - that advice might come in use.

athba wrote:I don't know BFG so i just assumed that you needed many large ships and smaller craft (which cost a bomb altogether) but am i right i thinking that you don't need that much??

Educate me please - i'm really interested in it.

Nah, it only cosats around 20-30 bucks to get into BFG.

You don't need alot of ships to begin with, they are realativly cheap on the second hand market, and the rules are located at the Specialist Games- GW main site.

Some ships can be made out of your scrap box, as well.

athba wrote:I don't know BFG so i just assumed that you needed many large ships and smaller craft (which cost a bomb altogether) but am i right i thinking that you don't need that much??

Educate me please - i'm really interested in it.

No worries I am here.

BFG is my favourite GW game, or was it old school Talisman, anyway.

The game has a number of advantages, first while there are some mismatches between some fleets, orks vs eldar or eldar vs necrons come to mind, there is nevertheless a fairly promisingly blanace bwtween the units amnd fleets, few are obvious choices either for or against. Second the game is cerebral, once you have your list you will need to use it properly, you can gein superior firepower, resilience or mobility for your ships, but the bonuses are mutually exclusive this leads to interesting tactical choices absent from most Gwe games.
Third the fleets look great and are simple to collect and paint, they are also cheap if you buy them second hand. This leasd to the systems only real downside, it has limited attraction, even those who like it dont play often but this dioes mean you can opick up a fleet for a fraction of shop value on eBay or Bartertown.

If you pick a provisional favourite fleet I would have happy to give you a run down on what it can do and how. Best do this on the BFg forum here which is tucked away s part of the general other SF games forum.

Orlanth wrote:Third the fleets look great

... aside from Dark Eldar, of course...

LunaHound wrote:
I want to build a tyranid fleet from tyranid left over bits xD
but i dunno the rules to even consider what they should look like .

That would be cheap and fun!

Try this site. http://www.dysartes.com/model/conversion/hivefleet.php

Uprising wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
I want to build a tyranid fleet from tyranid left over bits xD
but i dunno the rules to even consider what they should look like .

That would be cheap and fun!

Try this site. http://www.dysartes.com/model/conversion/hivefleet.php

Thank you!

Can anyone tell me how many general size are there to ships?

Capital largest? escorts , what else?

BFG is awesome! and it is the cheapest game to play for GW. You only need like... 4-8 ships to actually play


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LunaHound wrote:

Uprising wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
I want to build a tyranid fleet from tyranid left over bits xD
but i dunno the rules to even consider what they should look like .

That would be cheap and fun!

Try this site. http://www.dysartes.com/model/conversion/hivefleet.php

Thank you!

Can anyone tell me how many general size are there to ships?

Capital largest? escorts , what else?

Thats a little personal!

The ships are around 2-6 inches... BUT my Space Hulk is around 12