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Next week I'm attending a tournament and I need to bring 3 objective markers and I'm just wondering what size they can be and what base is appropriate.

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I would have to ask for guidance from those running the tournament. If it's just a plain marker then a normal infantry base should be good. If they're wanting an actual objective or something that's actually going to be judged then it's probably dependant on what you're trying to represent.

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I would say terminator base.

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I have a bunch of termy bases with Tyranid Hive Nodes that I use for objectives when I run the swarm.

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40mm seems to be more-or-less "standard" Objective, although 60mm / Dread base wouldn't be out of place for a Vital Objective.

   
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I bought the 40k marker kit and the objective markers are actually smaller than the regular bases. Perhaps this implies that even with the " 3 inch tag radius" the total size shouldnt be more than 6-7 inches. At least thats how it works out when using the GW markers.

   
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Technically, an objective is a "point on the table" and is not three dimensional, so a smaller objective marker would be more accurate to what is described in the rules.

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A few tournies here ask players to bring 3 40mm based objectives and one 60mm (but someone will generally bring 30 or so sets as well).

I have one 60mm objective base for my eldar, SM and DH, as well as 40mms for "generic markers" (loot and general supplies).

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Is there a rule in the rulebook on this? I own the GW-produced objective markers and they are smaller than 40mm, so if someone asked me to bring 40mm objectives I would question that. Since the size of the objective can make a difference as to who is contesting it and who isn't, this is actually a pretty important question.

Or maybe the GW objective markers are used for marking that a certain piece of terrain (variable size) is an objective?
   
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hancock.tom wrote:Is there a rule in the rulebook on this? I own the GW-produced objective markers and they are smaller than 40mm, so if someone asked me to bring 40mm objectives I would question that. Since the size of the objective can make a difference as to who is contesting it and who isn't, this is actually a pretty important question.

Or maybe the GW objective markers are used for marking that a certain piece of terrain (variable size) is an objective?


The objective should be used to represent a "point" right? Regardless of size of the objective marker measure to it's center and it shouldn't matter...

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CT GAMER wrote:
hancock.tom wrote:Is there a rule in the rulebook on this? I own the GW-produced objective markers and they are smaller than 40mm, so if someone asked me to bring 40mm objectives I would question that. Since the size of the objective can make a difference as to who is contesting it and who isn't, this is actually a pretty important question.

Or maybe the GW objective markers are used for marking that a certain piece of terrain (variable size) is an objective?


The objective should be used to represent a "point" right? Regardless of size of the objective marker measure to it's center and it shouldn't matter...


Hm that actually makes alot of sense because, the objective markers in the set have a skinny flad that goes in them, perhaps the base size was't what they were concerned about but rather measuring to the stick of the flag which would be a point for sure as its about as thick as inside of a inkpen.
   
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CT GAMER wrote:
hancock.tom wrote:Is there a rule in the rulebook on this? I own the GW-produced objective markers and they are smaller than 40mm, so if someone asked me to bring 40mm objectives I would question that. Since the size of the objective can make a difference as to who is contesting it and who isn't, this is actually a pretty important question.

Or maybe the GW objective markers are used for marking that a certain piece of terrain (variable size) is an objective?


The objective should be used to represent a "point" right? Regardless of size of the objective marker measure to it's center and it shouldn't matter...


This is correct. however this is not how most people play it. 99% of the time, I've seen players measure to any part of the objective, so objectives with larger sizes will significantly affect how the game plays out. IMO an objective should never be larger than a 25 mm base because of this trend.

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I use some old metal Sister of Battler Immolator side doors as my objective markers; they are flat, heavy, and 40mm across (not including the hinges). As I play Daemonhunter and Witch Hunters, those work fine for me and fit in with my army theme reqardless of which of my armies I decide to play.

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an objective marker can just be a painted inf base or said base with anything on it (raid your bits box and go nuts)
the new planet strike boxes have loads of posts with servo sculls in them they are only 1/4 " high but will make cool obj markers on an inf base , wounded models/wrecked vehicles are also good


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The rulebook actually suggest the large round bases as the ones that come with Dreadnoughts I personally find them perfect for objectives as you actually have some room to work with and create something unique to your army.

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Hollismason wrote:The rulebook actually suggest the large round bases as the ones that come with Dreadnoughts I personally find them perfect for objectives as you actually have some room to work with and create something unique to your army.


What in the rulebook suggests this? (not an e-challenge, a legit question)

The rulebook says that an objective is a "point on the table" that is represented by a marker or a detail of a terrain feature.

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Its somewhere in there I think its in the modeling section I mean its not a rule or anything.

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hancock.tom wrote:Is there a rule in the rulebook on this? I own the GW-produced objective markers and they are smaller than 40mm, so if someone asked me to bring 40mm objectives I would question that. Since the size of the objective can make a difference as to who is contesting it and who isn't, this is actually a pretty important question.

Or maybe the GW objective markers are used for marking that a certain piece of terrain (variable size) is an objective?


I did say "tournies" and they are usually allowed to set their own restrictions/requirements for things, regardless of what any mouth breather at GW says. Most gamers here use them as a chance to make a mini diorama scene for their army. They aren't a requirement at all tournies, and are merely a strongly suggested "request".

We have a few events with a perpetual trophy, and they are generally used for these.

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I use stuff mounted on typical 25mm bases. I've got one with a converted Cadian casualty, one ammo cache, a gravestone and one of those teleporter homers from the Terminator box. Not terribly creative, but they get their points across and make for interesting objectives.

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My Local Imperial Guard Player has made some really Impressive 4" tall Objective markers...

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With some of the players here, he'd do better to make 4" tall towers...

   
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unite all action wrote:Next week I'm attending a tournament and I need to bring 3 objective markers and I'm just wondering what size they can be and what base is appropriate.

from a modeling point of view


The scenarios list them as a "point" so basically markers would be toothpick sized. What you could do is make something 3" radius so all you had to do was touch it to contest or take it.
   
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I dont think there is a rule in the book - whether you make it large or small, you just need to be within 3 inches of it. For example, if you use the transparent Green plastic ones, then you need to be within 3 inches of the base. If you use a 40mm objective counter, you need to be within 3 inches of that.

Of course, Tournaments can set their own rules, and it is reasonable to expect these to be clearly written down.

Its not the size of the objective that matters, how you score with it.

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I've made a couple of objective markers from the small infantry bases. Simply because those are the ones I have spares of.
Nothing fancy : the teleport homer from the Terminator kit, an oil drum with some jerrycans, a couple of spare weapons, flags...
Objective markers are a great way to put your bits box to good use.

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darkkt wrote:I dont think there is a rule in the book - whether you make it large or small, you just need to be within 3 inches of it. For example, if you use the transparent Green plastic ones, then you need to be within 3 inches of the base. If you use a 40mm objective counter, you need to be within 3 inches of that.

Of course, Tournaments can set their own rules, and it is reasonable to expect these to be clearly written down.

Its not the size of the objective that matters, how you score with it.


Where is this rule?

The only thing that I can find is that an objective marker represents a "point" on the table that is the objective.

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Its not a rule its in the hobby section of the rulebook.

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Hollismason wrote:Its not a rule its in the hobby section of the rulebook.
You do see the problem then?

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Gwar! wrote:
Hollismason wrote:Its not a rule its in the hobby section of the rulebook.
You do see the problem then?

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Gwar! wrote:
Hollismason wrote:Its not a rule its in the hobby section of the rulebook.
You do see the problem then?

lol


It's only a problem when you run across rules lawyers and people that must win to validate the oxygen they are using to stay alive.

I have never argued over an objective, nor would I. It's a game. Play it, have fun, don't sweat the stupid stuff...

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I never suggested otherwise that it was a rule just that they were good and it was a good suggestion from the rulebook.


Don't see what all the fuss is.

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